Frobby Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 This is a big report. Just to be clear, the article is quoting an affidavit by one of the MASN lawyers, Alan Rifkin. So, it is his version of events. There are other affidavits giving the other side's version of events. I'd caution against taking either side's version at face value. There are literally hundreds of briefs, affidavits and exhibits on file with the Court in the MASN case, mostly available for public viewing. I wish I had time to sit down and read it all. Rifkin's affidavit references more than 30 exhibits, including things like drafts of the MASN agreement. Maybe one of these days I'll clear out a weekend to read some of these things. That said, my overall impression is that MASN has done a good job of pointing out some legit reasons why the RSDC panel may have been biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weams Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 What a mess. MLB comes off looking either stupid or dishonest or both in that article and attachments. The Orioles/MASN look to be in better shape than I would have expected. I am smug today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySoprano Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The Orioles have estimated the lost asset value of its network to be $800 million, and last August, the team succeeded in getting a judge to issue a preliminary injunction on enforcement of the arbitration ruling.Explain to me how $800 million is reasonable or should I say, in the ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Explain to me how $800 million is reasonable or should I say, in the ballpark. You can use the money to build a ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySoprano Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 You can use the money to build a ballpark.How can Peter and pals lose $800 million by paying the Nats more in rights fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 How can Peter and pals lose $800 million by paying the Nats more in rights fees? Any monies paid to the Nats has to be paid to the O's so any increase is a double hit. Rights monies are subject to revenue sharing. Lowered revenue for MASN lowers the value of the corporation. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySoprano Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Any monies paid to the Nats has to be paid to the O's so any increase is a double hit.Rights monies are subject to revenue sharing. Lowered revenue for MASN lowers the value of the corporation. I think. Contractually, MASN is required to give the Nats an increase. Market rates are on the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Contractually, MASN is required to give the Nats an increase. Market rates are on the rise. Tell that to the Astros. The bubble will burst in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySoprano Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Tell that to the Astros.The bubble will burst in the near future. This was supposed to address the market as it looked in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 This was supposed to address the market as it looked in 2012. And the rate of increase was excessive considering the revenue that was being generated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Tufnel Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 How can Peter and pals lose $800 million by paying the Nats more in rights fees? I think I did the math early in this thread, but they can. The obvious answer is that they're the ones that have to pay the Nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br10n Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It sounds like MASN is making a strong case. What happens if the judge rules in their favor? Does it set up a new arbitration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weams Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It sounds like MASN is making a strong case. What happens if the judge rules in their favor? Does it set up a new arbitration? Supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySoprano Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think I did the math early in this thread, but they can. The obvious answer is that they're the ones that have to pay the Nats.How did their asset take an $800M loss when the whole issue of rights fee is from 2012-2016. This gets opened up again in 2017 under the colossal assumption this gets wrapped up before then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Tufnel Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 How did their asset take an $800M loss when the whole issue of rights fee is from 2012-2016. This gets opened up again in 2017 under the colossal assumption this gets wrapped up before then? They seem to be talking about the value of MASN, which is presumably tied to a multiple of profits, and not straight cash. As the RSDC decision currently stands, MASN will pay out about $200 million in additional rights fees for 2012-2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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