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Its time to promote Chris Parmelee (Activated, Chen to Frederick)


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I'd argue that 900 PA spread over 4 years isn't much to go on. Yes he is 27 in AAA but that isn't enough reason to let him walk IMO. He's had a good OBP and fairly low SO rate consistently in the MiL. Even if he is just another Delmon or Reimold he's still younger and cheaper than both.

Excellent points as well sir.

If only any of these guys could play defense we wouldn't need Lough...

What a mess:)

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Snider career OPS .711 vs. Parmelee's .709.

Parmelee's OPS was compiled while playing half his games at Target Field. His OPS away from that huge stadium is .767. With PA's almost equal home vs road.

Parmelee has 3.5-4.5 years of control left compared to just 1.5 of Snider.

Parmelee hits leftes. Career .797 OPS in 191 PA's.

Overall it just looks like Snider is lost at the plate. His swing is all out of whack. I'd DFA him and see if I could make a trade. Someone could claim him and we're off the hook completely or worst case scenario is that he goes unclaimed and has to go to AAA. I don't know if he has the option to elect FA. It's 45 days until the trade deadline. I'd see what Parmelee can do in that time. Snider is not a nugget.

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Snider career OPS .711 vs. Parmelee's .709.

Parmelee's OPS was compiled while playing half his games at Target Field. His OPS away from that huge stadium is .767. With PA's almost equal home vs road.

Parmelee has 3.5-4.5 years of control left compared to just 1.5 of Snider.

Parmelee hits leftes. Career .797 OPS in 191 PA's.

Overall it just looks like Snider is lost at the plate. His swing is all out of whack. I'd DFA him and see if I could make a trade. Someone could claim him and we're off the hook completely or worst case scenario is that he goes unclaimed and has to go to AAA. I don't know if he has the option to elect FA. It's 45 days until the trade deadline. I'd see what Parmelee can do in that time. Snider is not a nugget.

Best post all year. I am on board.

I agree, I think you will get something for him. How much? Probably not significant but worth it.

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If he as bad as all that, not sure how you get another GM to cough up anything for him.

Well we didn't give up much plus you upgrade slightly with Parmalee (if Davis plays some RF). Might be worth it.

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Well we didn't give up much plus you upgrade slightly with Parmalee (if Davis plays some RF). Might be worth it.

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Parmalee might be an upgrade with the bat.

But, his defense is going to be worse than Snider, so not sure it's worth it.

Maybe that was why Reimold got the call, vice Parmalee?

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If he as bad as all that, not sure how you get another GM to cough up anything for him.

He is worse than De Aza and we got something for him. And De Aza was getting paid more. I am slowly being convinced by the DFA Snider argument. Alvarez is also an option if Parmelee struggles or Reimold gets hurt.

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Parmalee might be an upgrade with the bat.

But, his defense is going to be worse than Snider, so not sure it's worth it.

Maybe that was why Reimold got the call, vice Parmalee?

I agree 110% but if Davis plays RF and he is okay, then that is a much bigger upgrade.

EDIT: Let me just add this. We all get frustrated at players. I don't think Snider or Lough are starters. From what I saw, I don't think there was even a chance of that without some eureka moment. I don't think they stink, etc. The fact that any of these players can get to the majors (or minors or even college ball) to me is amazing. I just think we have a lot of part-time players that we can easily upgrade and NEED to upgrade. Is Parmalee the answer? Who knows, but if you lose him and he goes to another team and does well, will you be okay with keeping Snider and Young?

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I agree 110% but if Davis plays RF and he is okay, then that is a much bigger upgrade.

EDIT: Let me just add this. We all get frustrated at players. I don't think Snider or Lough are starters. From what I saw, I don't think there was even a chance of that without some eureka moment. I don't think they stink, etc. The fact that any of these players can get to the majors (or minors or even college ball) to me is amazing. I just think we have a lot of part-time players that we can easily upgrade and NEED to upgrade. Is Parmalee the answer? Who knows, but if you lose him and he goes to another team and does well, will you be okay with keeping Snider and Young?

And if you trade Snider and be does well for another team?

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Some quotes I found from a twins site.

The biggest difference between Plouffe and Parmelee is that it was the former?s bat that kept him in the lineup, where Parmelee?s defense is likely to keep him on the field.

Parmelee has an incredible ability to play the ball off the wall, which compliments his arm strength and allows him to throw players out at second or relay a ball to home plate.

?He works really hard at it,? says manager Ron Gardenhire. ?He?s got quick feet, and he?s got a nice spin that?s under control?he?s very accurate with his throws."

?That throw to second base is one of those throws where, if you play it off the wall well, he?ll have a lot of chances [to throw people out].?

Parmelee primarily played first base in the minors and people questioned his ability to man right field when the Twins placed him there this season. ?It's interesting that the Twins are using Parmelee in right field,? wrote Gleeman last year. ?Because he figures to be below average there and played zero innings in the outfield for Rochester.?

Parmelee?s biggest asset in the field is his ability to play the ball off the wall; a task is more difficult than it appears.

?The wall here, it?s really tough,? says Gardenhire. ?There?s a lot of things out there that it can hit.?

?It seems like there are 15 different surfaces out there, with the limestone fence, wood, padding, tin?a little bit of tin, concrete,? says Parmelee.

Yes, there is a little bit of tin in right field.

?Where the scoreboard is in right-center, the big screen, right above it is almost like a rain sheet of tin,? he continues. ?Every once and a while, it?s pretty rare, but you see a ball come off that and just die.?

All the surfaces play differently. If the ball hits the scoreboard, it goes straight down. If it hits the concrete, it jumps farther than it would if it hits the padding. The wood is somewhere in between. The limestone fence is a complete wild card.

?It?s definitely repetition,? says Parmelee. ?Sometimes there?s not much you can do about it. It?s just knowing how the ball is going to go."

?If you know that the ball is going to hit the plywood, repetition tells you how hard it is going to come off and where you need to be.?

Every park has a unique design, so when Parmelee goes on the road, he will take time during batting practice to practice playing balls off the wall.

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And if you trade Snider and be does well for another team?

I'll bust out laughing. Knowing that DD gained about 1.5 million to be used come trade deadline time. Combine that with the money saved on De Aza and Webb and thats about 4-5 million saved. Just from getting rid of dead weight.

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I don't know enough about his defense. -1.7 dWAR over 900 MLB ABs. We already have a lefty DH in Paredes. I think Paredes has probably hit enough to stay for now. I like the suggestion of Davis in RF if Parmelee can play a decent 1B. Then put Lough in LF, and shade AJ toward RF. We would still have a lot of ground covered out there.

dWAR is almost worthless in a case like this.

DRS says he's a bit above average at first base, rating + 2 runs a season (135 games) and slightly below average in RF at -2 runs a season rate and really bad in LF in the smallest sample size. UZR rates him less favorably and a little below average at first base and RF.

Relatively small ML small size, but metrics suggest averegish first baseman and below average (but not horrible) outfielder.

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