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What is the max the Orioles want to spend on a closer? Won't Britton be the most expensive Orioles closer in 2016?

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2016 Britton makes maybe 6M. That keeps as a closer. If he has a good year next year he will make 10M in 2017. That got Jim Johnson traded. I don't know about Britton.

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We went through this with Jim Johnson for the exact same reason. And for the exact same reason the O's didn't do it with Johnson, they won't with Britton.

There was more to it with Jim Johnson. He faltered in the playoffs. That doesn't mix well with $10m.

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We know Britton is a very good relief pitcher. We know that as a starter he threw 254 innings of a 4.77 ERA. We would be hoping that he would be better than that after two years of pitching exclusively in relief and changing how he pitches and prepares. I would leave him where he is.
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2016 Britton makes maybe 6M. That keeps as a closer. If he has a good year next year he will make 10M in 2017. That got Jim Johnson traded. I don't know about Britton.

Johnson's salary increases over 100% from arb1 year to arb2 year. Should we expect Britton's raise to be significantly less?

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Johnson's salary increases over 100% from arb1 year to arb2 year. Should we expect Britton's raise to be significantly less?

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Unless he suffers a major injury this month he should nearly double his salary.

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Johnson's salary increases over 100% from arb1 year to arb2 year. Should we expect Britton's raise to be significantly less?

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What is significant? Zach is making 3.2M. He could double or near double his salary next year if he continues to pitch as he has in the first half.

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What is significant? Zach is making 3.2M. He could double or near double his salary next year if he continues to pitch as he has in the first half.

You previously said that he may touch $6M which would be about an 88% increase from arb year1 to Arb year2. Jim Johnson had a 147% raise from arb year1 to arb year2. 147% to 88%, to me, is a significant difference. I believe JJ has been the highest paid Oriole closer at $6.5M. If Britton gets a 147% increase, he's looking at $7.9M next season which would make him the highest paid closer in franchise history. I don't think he'll get 7.9, but if I'm Boras, I would feel very comfortable throwing out 7.2M as my arb figure.

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What is significant? Zach is making 3.2M. He could double or near double his salary next year if he continues to pitch as he has in the first half.

JJ went from $975 k as a super two to $2.65 mm (after an excellent year as a setup man) to $6.5 mm (after his 51 save, 3 blown save season) to $10 mm (after his 50 save, 9 blown save campaign). Britton earned $3.2 mm as a super two after his 37 save, 4 blown save campaign). It's a little hard to extrapolate, but idguess that double is right, plus or minus $600 k ($5.5-7 mm).

I'm not sure I find that relevant to whether to try Britton as a starter. That Devision rests on one's opinion of the odds that the conversion can be successful, what else we have to do with the rotation and the bullpen in order to try the experiment, and what the plan will be for Britton if the experiment doesn't work.

I don't find the comparison between Britton and JJ too helpful. Britton was much more highly regarded as a starter in the minors, and had some initial success in the majors as a starter.

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No. Keep him where he is doing well. If we had a closer-in-waiting, then I would consider this, but we don't. O'Day (even if he re-signs) is still most valuable as a 7th-8th inning guy to match up vs RH batters. I am not ready to hand the 9th inning to Givens. We are thin enough as it is in the bullpen next year. Keep Zach where he is.

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It depends on how reliable the slider is. If he can command that pitch I think there is a possibility you can hope for a Brandon Webb type outcome. Kinda curious what velocity he would sit at with the sinker through 6-7 innings.

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I agree, and I have said it several times on here. It usually is not met by a whole lot of enthusiasm on the board, but I see no reason that Britton could not be a very solid starter. And next year, with Chen likely gone, I think it would be a smart thing to do to at least give Britton a look at the rotation.
If it works, don't fix it. Zach is a great closer. Why try and "fix" something that isn't broken?
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