Cost considered, who would you prefer to sign among Davis, Upton, Heyward, Cespedes or Gordon?

[isestrex]

I am not wedded to Heyward but he destroys Markakis defensively. No way Markakis comes close to this play...http://m.mlb.com/video/v31405521/atlnym-heyward-makes-spectacular-catch-to-end-game

Of course. He's younger, and because of his defense (though Markakis was no slouch) Heyward will be more valuable than Markakis. But think they will have similarly disappointing offensive age seasons 25-30.

[isestrex]

Tell the Blue Jays they need a LH bat.

Buck will not allow a lineup of 7 everyday righties and 2 lefties, just as DD will not allow the cutter. Getting a RH bat may not be off the table strategically in the grand scheme of things, but it IS off the table for this team with the people in charge.

[weams]

Of course. He's younger, and because of his defense (though Markakis was no slouch) Heyward will be more valuable than Markakis. But think they will have similarly disappointing offensive age seasons 25-30.

I am not a fan.

[mdbdotcom]

Buck will not allow a lineup of 7 everyday righties and 2 lefties, just as DD will not allow the cutter. Getting a RH bat may not be off the table strategically in the grand scheme of things, but it IS off the table for this team with the people in charge.

I think it has more to do with the people in the lineup than the people making the decisions. Give Buck righties who hit all pitching and he'll play them.

[Roll Tide]

Price.

IF the money was going to be spent. Out of these options, Heyward. I'll settle with Kazmir for probably less years and AAV than Chen gets. The Orioles aren't handing out any multi-year free agent deals where a bidding war takes place. They signed Jimenez late in the off season.

I don't think just because money is coming off the books that they alter their organizational philosophy.

I agree the just just rebuild at least the dumpster diving can be justified if they do that.

[flaoriolesfan]

Chris Davis just because he already is an Oriole and I love his attitude,power,OBP. Always rather keep an Oriole if possible.

[OriolesMagic83]

Oops, I didn't realize there was the exact same thread as I started. I guess great minds think alike. :laughlol:

My choice would be Gordon over Davis. I think Gordon will age better than Davis with his skill set.

If I had to guess what the FO will do, I would guess they would only strongly pursue Davis, b/c they don't have to give up a 1st round pick.

Contract guesses:

Heyward: 7 yrs/$175 mill

Davis: 6 yrs/ $150 mill

Upton: 6 yrs/ $144 mill

Cespedes: 5 yrs/$125 mill

Gordon: 5 yrs/$110 mill

[$Greatness$]

If you don't take Davis, you're goofy. Anyone who turns down an average of 30 Hrs a season is goofy. But then again... a lot of fans are OK with letting go 30 Hr guys the last two years. I personally don't understand it though, haha.

[El Gordo]

If you don't take Davis, you're goofy. Anyone who turns down an average of 30 Hrs a season is goofy. But then again... a lot of fans are OK with letting go 30 Hr guys the last two years. I personally don't understand it though, haha.

Heyward hits for a better average, gets on base more, plays better defense, is a better base runner, is 4 years younger but you prefer Davis because he hits more HR some times? .

[isestrex]

Heyward hits for a better average, gets on base more, plays better defense, is a better base runner, is 4 years younger but you prefer Davis because he hits more HR some times? .

You could say the same about a 24 old Markakis. Would you sign a young Nick over a 28 year old Davis?

[Can_of_corn]

You could say the same about a 24 old Markakis. Would you sign a young Nick over a 28 year old Davis?

Without the benefit of hindsight?

Yes.

Of course Heyward is a better player then Markakis.

[weams]

Without the benefit of hindsight?

Yes.

Of course Heyward is a better player then Markakis.

2006 22 BAL AL 147 542 491 72 143 25 2 16 62 2 0 43 72 .291 .351 .448 .799 106 220 15 3 3 2 3 *97/8D RoY-6

2007 23 BAL AL 161 710 637 97 191 43 3 23 112 18 6 61 112 .300 .362 .485 .848 121 309 22 5 1 6 5 *9

2008 24 BAL AL 157 697 595 106 182 48 1 20 87 10 7 99 113 .306 .406 .491 .897 136 292 10 2 0 1 7 *9

2009 25 BAL AL 161 711 642 94 188 45 2 18 101 6 2 56 98 .293 .347 .453 .801 108 291 12 3 0 10 0 *9

2010 26 BAL AL 160 709 629 79 187 45 3 12 60 7 2 73 93 .297 .370 .436 .805 120 274 18 2 0 5 9

2010 ★ 20 ATL NL 142 623 520 83 144 29 5 18 72 11 6 91 128 .277 .393 .456 .849 131 237 13 10 0 2 2 *9 AS,MVP-20,RoY-2

2011 21 ATL NL 128 456 396 50 90 18 2 14 42 9 2 51 93 .227 .319 .389 .708 93 154 7 4 0 3 4 *9

2012 22 ATL NL 158 651 587 93 158 30 6 27 82 21 8 58 152 .269 .335 .479 .814 117 281 4 2 0 3 1 *9/8 MVP-28,GG

2013 23 ATL NL 104 440 382 67 97 22 1 14 38 2 4 48 73 .254 .349 .427 .776 114 163 7 8 1 0 1 98

2014 24 ATL NL 149 649 573 74 155 26 3 11 58 20 4 67 98 .271 .351 .384 .735 108 220 2 6 0 3 3 *9 GG

2015 25 STL NL 143 566 510 73 148 32 4 12 56 22 3 49 84 .290 .353 .439 .792 115 224 13 2 0 3 4 *9/

Pretty similar at their ages.

[Can_of_corn]

Pretty similar at their ages.

Aside from Heyward being significantly better on defense, being two years younger, and having battled injuries when Markakis was healthy.

Either way, I would take 24 year old Nick or 25 year old Heyward over 28 year old Davis.

[weams]

Aside from Heyward being significantly better on defense, being two years younger, and having battled injuries when Markakis was healthy.

Either way, I would take 24 year old Nick or 25 year old Heyward over 28 year old Davis.

I am uncertain how important the defense difference may be of that version of Nick with that arm in right in Camden Yards.

[Can_of_corn]

I am uncertain how important the defense difference may be of that version of Nick with that arm in right in Camden Yards.

It's akin to comparing Donaldson to Machado.