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2nd tier FA you would like to see play for the O's

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Personally, I wouldn't mind Doug Fister. I wanted Dexter Fowler last offseason and was hoping they aquire him. If the Orioles could resign Davis and sign Fowler and Fister and maybe trade for a Reddick type then I'd be happy. Even if they bring back Parra and sign Fowler.

Right handed, Maybe pick, Bad pitcher with alarming loss of velocity over last two years.

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Personally, I wouldn't mind Doug Fister. I wanted Dexter Fowler last offseason and was hoping they aquire him. If the Orioles could resign Davis and sign Fowler and Fister and maybe trade for a Reddick type then I'd be happy. Even if they bring back Parra and sign Fowler.

How bad would Fister have been in the AL East this year? I wanted Travis Snider but I am not bragging it ;)

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I think Alex Avila is a good buy-low candidate. Great defender, can platoon at C with Joseph, and can save money to be spent elsewhere. It allows Clevenger, whose defense still isn't good to enough, and Pearce to split DH duties as well.

He has not hit well the last three years but I would take a chance.Don't trust Joseph as a 100 or more games catcher. Isn't Avila s father now the GM of the Tigers?

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Dan likes his cheap alternatives. Resign O'Day and move Britton to the rotation gets Dan a starter for 7m per year. Its hard to find a starter with experience for less than that.

Won't work. Not enough quality pitches or shoulder stamina.

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Dan likes his cheap alternatives. Resign O'Day and move Britton to the rotation gets Dan a starter for 7m per year. Its hard to find a starter with experience for less than that.
I think one of the difficulties with assessing whether pitchers can effectively pitch with one or two pitches is that these kinds of pitchers are such amazing outliers that it is difficult to figure out the characteristics that would let them prosper. I contend that Mariano Rivera was a fringe starter, but excellent reliever pretty much immediately. I contend what Britton has become something along that vein. He does get a lot of mileage out of his slider, but I think it would be difficult to call that slider an exceptional pitch. The value of that slider is that he throws his sinker 90% of the time. As you face a batter a second or third time, a steady diet of two seamers becomes a difficult thing to succeed with. With the slider out more often to help him shoulder repeat viewings, I am confidant that the pitch would be exposed.

Re: Changeup. That was a 40/45 pitch. It was poor. Pitch value is a difficult metric to use constructively because it depends so much on the other pitches and it is also rare you get a large enough sample size.

To summarize, the scouting angle is that Britton is a fringe backend arm. I have little confidence in the statistics to go against the scouts. My kid often makes me fall asleep before any of the games end, but I have only seen Britton rip off one very good slider. I have no memory of him ever doing it consistently. Maybe I am wrong about that, but you look at Chris Sale's or Kershaw's slider and then Britton's...you see a very wide gulf.

I think one of the difficulties with assessing whether pitchers can effectively pitch with one or two pitches is that these kinds of pitchers are such amazing outliers that it is difficult to figure out the characteristics that would let them prosper. I contend that Mariano Rivera was a fringe starter, but excellent reliever pretty much immediately. I contend what Britton has become something along that vein. He does get a lot of mileage out of his slider, but I think it would be difficult to call that slider an exceptional pitch. The value of that slider is that he throws his sinker 90% of the time. As you face a batter a second or third time, a steady diet of two seamers becomes a difficult thing to succeed with. With the slider out more often to help him shoulder repeat viewings, I am confidant that the pitch would be exposed.

Re: Changeup. That was a 40/45 pitch. It was poor. Pitch value is a difficult metric to use constructively because it depends so much on the other pitches and it is also rare you get a large enough sample size.

To summarize, the scouting angle is that Britton is a fringe backend arm. I have little confidence in the statistics to go against the scouts. My kid often makes me fall asleep before any of the games end, but I have only seen Britton rip off one very good slider. I have no memory of him ever doing it consistently. Maybe I am wrong about that, but you look at Chris Sale's or Kershaw's slider and then Britton's...you see a very wide gulf.

Just Jon Shepherd's take. Not mine. I'm not as fluent in "scout."

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They won't again. I am fairly certain.

I think your being a little pick obsessed. If the right guy at the right price comes along and costs a pick the O's will sign him. Instead of 3 picks they will have 2 ect.

If CD agreed to terms that the O's could live with they would certainly resign and him and in effect that resigning would cost a pick. If the O's would forgo a pick for CD and his production at the right price, there is no reason to believe they would not do so for another player if the price was right.

The will and should value those comp picks but it should not be the end all be all.

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