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1- Angelos is coming off as desperate and desperate folks tend not to lower their offer. (Leaking that the door is still open, not allowing Dan to fully move on to other options.)

2- If he was going to do it I think he would have done it by now.

3- He doesn't want to "disrespect" Davis and thinks lowering the offer would only guarantee he go elsewhere.

Man, I guess I just give Angelos too much credit. I just find it hard to believe that a man with his level of intelligence and success would ignore the current marketplace when making huge financial decisions.

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That would be an incredibly poor use of resources. I sincerely hope you are wrong, weams.
Do we expect PA to act reasonably and stop trying to overspend for a player out of "loyalty" and possibly spend less $$ on a potentially better player? Is expecting reasonable behavior a stupid thing to expect?

My opinion is that Upton has the Orioles as a shorter fallback. Under 100 million. Unless Davis signs elsewhere. Then things might change.

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Bora's would have played teams off of each other. He would always have come back to the Orioles with a chance to bid higher. He hasn't signed a 7/154 offer from the O's. It makes zero sense that he already would have signed a 5/100 contract with another team.
At some point the market would have stalled, or PA would have become frustrated and pulled out as he has in the past. It wouldn't be like it is. Hopefully some other team would have signed him soon enough for us to move on to Upton.
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Not at all. I don't expect anything other than Davis back at the offer Boras turned down. That is my opinion. Not defending it, not explain it, not taking shots at folks who wish the initial offer had not been made. But I don't think there is any reason to believe that the Orioles will lower their offer. Or sign anyone for over 100 million other than Davis.

You may very well be right, but under your theory, the Orioles would be acting completely illogically. You have a finite budget, you have multiple holes to fill (while Trumbo can play 1B), yet you are willing to offer the highest contract, by far, in Orioles history despite the fact that it is way above market.

True or not, it is completely nonsensical.

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Man, I guess I just give Angelos too much credit. I just find it hard to believe that a man with his level of intelligence and success would ignore the current marketplace when making huge financial decisions.

Well, if Boras is playing hardball, it's likely that we don't know what the Orioles' current offer (if there is one based upon the "door is still open" reports) is regarding Davis. It may very well be that when and if Boras comes back to the O's that PA tells him (based upon the market, other teams' rosters, closeness to spring training, etc) that the new offer is 5/110 (or whatever). Point is, you don't negotiate in a vacuum and until Boras asks, I think it's in the Orioles best interests not to negotiate in the press. In fact, their best strategy is to do what it appears (albeit unclear) to be that they are doing: looking elsewhere. If nothing else, this gives them leverage. Davis, at this point, has little leverage.

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It will be all the money. All of it.

Then making the offer early and public was a big mistake. If that is your maximum limit offer, no way you should offer it to Boras right away, because he always sits and waits virtually the entire offseason no matter what you offer. Should have offered him 20 million less first and then you could adjust it at the end of the Boras holdout if needed.

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Then making the offer early and public was a big mistake. If that is your maximum limit offer, no way you should offer it to Boras right away, because he always sits and waits virtually the entire offseason no matter what you offer. Should have offered him 20 million less first and then you could adjust it at the end of the Boras holdout if needed.

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I think he wanted to scare away other suitors.

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Then making the offer early and public was a big mistake. If that is your maximum limit offer, no way you should offer it to Boras right away, because he always sits and waits virtually the entire offseason no matter what you offer. Should have offered him 20 million less first and then you could adjust it at the end of the Boras holdout if needed.

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You never know. Sox made their best offer right away with Price and got their guy. It didn't work in this case.

Could be a blessing in disguise if he goes elsewhere and has another 2014.

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Agree with COC. Angelos has a thing for Davis. Let's face it. Boras got Angelos to overbid at 7/154. You want to call Angelos a shrewd negotiator. He already got outmaneuvered just by offering that contract. He must have been worried about losing Davis to a bigger bid from aonther team. Who got him to feel that way? Boras. He won't lower it because not only will it hurt his chances of getting Davis but it will also make the original deal put together by Angelos as being a bad one. Boras has had the upper hand all the way. Everyone talks about no other team offering Davis close to 7/154. We can't even figure out ONE team that actually is in on him. Yet, Boras has not accepted the O's offer. He's not worried one bit. It's (the 7/154M) is sitting there waiting for him and he knows it.

If Angelos signs davis at greater than his original offer, he should be mocked and made a laughingstock. Any self-respecting businessman would have realized that the market has shifted and adjusted accordingly. I hope the local media and this message board do not give him a pass just because he "brought back one of our guys." It is highly likely that Davis will be a liability in his mid to late 30s. Committing to anything over six years is silly. Even six is a stretch. If we bring back Davis at some ridiculous deal like the Heyward contract, I hope in 2020 the fawning local sportswriters enjoy watching him set strikeout records that will live in infamy while Manny is wearing pinstripes.

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If Angelos signs davis at greater than his original offer, he should be mocked and made a laughingstock. Any self-respecting businessman would have realized that the market has shifted and adjusted accordingly. I hope the local media and this message board do not give him a pass just because he "brought back one of our guys." It is highly likely that Davis will be a liability in his mid to late 30s. Committing to anything over six years is silly. Even six is a stretch. If we bring back Davis at some ridiculous deal like the Heyward contract, I hope in 2020 the fawning local sportswriters enjoy watching him set strikeout records that will live in infamy while Manny is wearing pinstripes.

I don't think there is much of a chance the offer goes higher, just that it also won't go lower.

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If Angelos signs davis at greater than his original offer, he should be mocked and made a laughingstock. Any self-respecting businessman would have realized that the market has shifted and adjusted accordingly. I hope the local media and this message board do not give him a pass just because he "brought back one of our guys." It is highly likely that Davis will be a liability in his mid to late 30s. Committing to anything over six years is silly. Even six is a stretch. If we bring back Davis at some ridiculous deal like the Heyward contract, I hope in 2020 the fawning local sportswriters enjoy watching him set strikeout records that will live in infamy while Manny is wearing pinstripes.

Who are the fawning local media type you abhor?

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