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What do O's do after getting spurned by Fowler?  

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  1. 1. What do O's do after getting spurned by Fowler?

    • Sign Alvarez
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    • Sign Jackson
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    • Roll with what we got
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jamalshw All-Star

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Do you have a link to that?

I'd love to see a link to that, too. I find it hard to believe Alvarez will get that assurance from anyone right now. He's going to be a primary DH wherever he goes. At this point, he should just be looking to go somewhere that can assure him seeing ABs more than 50% of the time.

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I'm more and more cool with Jackson. End of the day, we just need a guy who can go out there every damn day and not suck. He brings good defense, he'll hit a little. No, he's not a leadoff guy, really, but you can set it and forget it in RF, and that's huge.

I'm not sure "not suck" is how I'd describe Austin Jackson anymore. I'm 100% in the "add a player" boat, but Jackson isn't an upgrade over anybody.

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So I know people have talked about Jay Bruce extensively. I just pulled up his numbers. The average is alarming, but his production is terrific. Questions for smarter people than I: would we realistically take on that much salary? My guess is the more they absorb, the greater the prospect. Also, how is Bruce's defense?

To me, if Bruce doesn't cost that much prospect wise, he is by far the best option from what I can tell assuming he isn't a liability out in RF, which I doubt he is.

Thoughts?

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Would it be crazy at this point to go and get both for the amount it would have cost for fowler this year?

Between left field, right field and DH is it possible to get Jackson, Alvarez, Trumbo and Kim 120 starts each. With pinch hitting and defensive switches they would likely all get 135 games and close to 500 plate appearances each.

Heck, in a pinch Alvarez could play a dozen games at 3rd (yikes) and machado could play short if we need the offense in those games. The flaherty could slide in for defense if we want to rest hardy

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So I know people have talked about Jay Bruce extensively. I just pulled up his numbers. The average is alarming, but his production is terrific. Questions for smarter people than I: would we realistically take on that much salary? My guess is the more they absorb, the greater the prospect. Also, how is Bruce's defense?

To me, if Bruce doesn't cost that much prospect wise, he is by far the best option from what I can tell assuming he isn't a liability out in RF, which I doubt he is.

Thoughts?

Well, we were going to give Fowler $11MM AAV, so we should be able to take on most of his $12.5MM salary.

Bruce was a plus defender before his knee injury. He's struggled in RF since then, but the further he gets from that surgery, perhaps the defense comes back.

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Well, we were going to give Fowler $11MM AAV, so we should be able to take on most of his $12.5MM salary.

Bruce was a plus defender before his knee injury. He's struggled in RF since then, but the further he gets from that surgery, perhaps the defense comes back.

I like the idea of Ethier if he can be had with 5 million annually and for a couple of marginal prospects.

He's not a lead off hitter but he's much better than Bruce or Jackson

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So I know people have talked about Jay Bruce extensively. I just pulled up his numbers. The average is alarming, but his production is terrific. Questions for smarter people than I: would we realistically take on that much salary? My guess is the more they absorb, the greater the prospect. Also, how is Bruce's defense?

To me, if Bruce doesn't cost that much prospect wise, he is by far the best option from what I can tell assuming he isn't a liability out in RF, which I doubt he is.

Thoughts?

How do you define production? The last two years he's had a .222/.288/.406 slash line as a maybe average RFer making over $10M. By both flavors of WAR he's been sub-replacement. Over that period he's 75th among corner OFers in OPS+ (min 250 PAs), behind such luminaries as Chris Parmelee, Delmon Young, Nolan Reimold, Alejandro De Aza, Travis Snider, and Gerardo Parra.

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How do you define production? The last two years he's had a .222/.288/.406 slash line as a maybe average RFer making over $10M. By both flavors of WAR he's been sub-replacement. Over that period he's 75th among corner OFers in OPS+ (min 250 PAs), behind such luminaries as Chris Parmelee, Delmon Young, Nolan Reimold, Alejandro De Aza, Travis Snider, and Gerardo Parra.

Wow, LOL, that's rough:) Who do you favor getting?

Cruz had issues and bounced back nicely, maybe Bruce does too. Or maybe he doesn't. I guess that is the gamble. Between him and Jackson, I would take Bruce. Alvarez is my second choice the defense alignment there scares me.

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Wow, LOL, that's rough:) Who do you favor getting?

Cruz had issues and bounced back nicely, maybe Bruce does too. Or maybe he doesn't. I guess that is the gamble. Between him and Jackson, I would take Bruce. Alvarez is my second choice the defense alignment there scares me.

This guy! http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/los-angeles-dodgers/andre-ethier/

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