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I think he was overly concerned with keeping the core intact, just like he was this offseason.

Between Cabrera, De Aza, Snider, Lavarnway and Parmelee, none of it worked out. I think it was a mistake to think Pearce would repeat as well. I don't remember clearly what else was available that offseason, but DD is better at finding guys than that. That's one reason Toronto wanted him, I'm sure. After the fact, I never liked the Parra trade either. Throwing out career stats in favor of one season of numbers head and shoulders above everything he's ever done in a contract year is never a good idea. That deal was a mistake before it happened.

Anyway, it's possible I'm just biased about it, but I don't really buy that it had no effect on anything in the offseason.

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Between Cabrera, De Aza, Snider, Lavarnway and Parmelee, none of it worked out. I think it was a mistake to think Pearce would repeat as well. I don't remember clearly what else was available that offseason, but DD is better at finding guys than that. That's one reason Toronto wanted him, I'm sure. After the fact, I never liked the Parra trade either. Throwing out career stats in favor of one season of numbers head and shoulders above everything he's ever done in a contract year is never a good idea. That deal was a mistake before it happened.

Anyway, it's possible I'm just biased about it, but I don't really buy that it had no effect on anything in the offseason.

Toronto wanted him because Dan was one of the two guys mentioned by name when Ed Rodgers asked the Yankees' Randy Levine for some suggestions.

You do know that is how Toronto got their list right? A meddling owner type asked the President of a division rival for names.

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Toronto wanted him because Dan was one of the two guys mentioned by name when Ed Rodgers asked the Yankees' Randy Levine for some suggestions.

You do know that is how Toronto got their list right? A meddling owner type asked the President of a division rival for names.

Actually, I didn't know that. I had no idea how they got their list and it didn't really matter to me at the time. Going around trying to poach GM's under contract for other teams is really low class to me. Didn't they also try to do the same with the White Sox? I'm surprised MLB even allowed it to go on like it did. Aren't there rules against this sort of thing?

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Actually, I didn't know that. I had no idea how they got their list and it didn't really matter to me at the time. Going around trying to poach GM's under contract for other teams is really low class to me. Didn't they also try to do the same with the White Sox? I'm surprised MLB even allowed it to go on like it did. Aren't there rules against this sort of thing?

Sure are.

However enforcement of said rules is flexible and when you are currently suing MLB these things tend to happen.

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I would have made more low-risk signings of starting pitchers. Beginning with Mat Latos. If the White Sox offered him 1/$3 million, I would have offered him 1/$7, at minimum.

Fister is another. Not sure why we didn't go after either. Guts signed a minor league deal. Cheap enough.

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Second tier prospects would be more along the lines of the Brault/Tarpley deal last year when both were outside of our top ten. Reyes and Lee are not currently second tier prospects, IMO.

More along the lines of Dariel Alvarez, Christian Walker, Parker Bridwell, Tyler Wilson, David Hess, Josh Hart. Two of that list.

Doesn't it seem odd that Toronto, with their solid farm, can't swing a deal for Bruce if that's all it cost?

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Yes they did. But their system has been very deep.

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It's as if they have a tree in Dunedin that grows young arms with mid to upper 90s velocity.

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