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Have Aquino and Lee passed Wright and Wilson on the starter depth chart?

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On 3/12/2017 at 8:15 AM, scOtt said:

Why? I'd rather some light bulb clicks for all four of them and they're all BUSTING down the door to the majors. Certainly not rooting against Wilson and Wright.

Not rooting against them, just kind of ready for them to not be much different than they have been. Being realistic does not mean I'm rooting against anyone.

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I think they have to a large degree. I think the Orioles think they know what they have in Wright and Wilson...fringe pitchers. They could definitely get some spot starts and I can see them yo-yoing between AAA and the ML bullpen when an extra long reliever or extra pitcher in general is needed. But it seems clear that the Orioles think Aquino and especially Lee could be real starting pitchers in Baltimore and I think the Orioles will be happy to give those guys a shot at the rotation sooner than later. I think the O's are looking for Tillman's long-term replacement, not just a replacement for the first half of this season and they are willing to be very aggressive with Lee. Showalter has been drooling over Lee for a couple of years. 

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On 3/12/2017 at 1:10 AM, FlipTheBird said:

Aquino didn't exactly blow people away last year in Bowie, and Lee is still rebounding from his injury. Only got to throw 51 innings last season. He absolutely needs more work and time.

Yes, both of these guys are intriguing, because they've looked strong this spring, and they're lefties - which the O's starting corps is kind of short on. But both are still young and a bit raw. Further, Wilson and Wright are (hopefully) just going to serve as spot starters this year, at best. I'd rather guys like Aquino and Lee get stretched out in Norfolk and be ready to maybe assume more permanent roles down the line.

 

 

Bundy was coming back from injury last year as well and that turned out pretty darn well.

 

I'd personally take Lee over Wright or Wilson any day of the week based on potential alone.

 

I also believe Wright is best suited to be a lights out reliever. Come in with extremely high energy and throw the kitchen sink and them and give us one or two solid innings.

 

I'd that that over 3-4 innings of 4 or 5 run starting any day of the week.

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1 hour ago, Norfolk orioles said:

 

 

Bundy was coming back from injury last year as well and that turned out pretty darn well.

 

I'd personally take Lee over Wright or Wilson any day of the week based on potential alone.

 

I also believe Wright is best suited to be a lights out reliever. Come in with extremely high energy and throw the kitchen sink and them and give us one or two solid innings.

 

I'd that that over 3-4 innings of 4 or 5 run starting any day of the week.

We're not debating potential, we're debating whether or not they'd make more viable options early this season... Which I honestly don't know that they're ready to do, yet. They need further season.

Also, I am baffled as to how apparently 2/3 of this board believes that Mike Wright can just walk into the bullpen and will away his previous struggles.

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On 3/13/2017 at 3:03 PM, FlipTheBird said:

Who?

I honestly don't think Mike Wright, Tyler Wilson, Chris Lee or any of them are viable options.

If I'm being honest, I have more faith in a Doug Fister or Colby Lewis. But not by a lot.

I was honestly a bit miffed when Duquette traded Yovani Gallardo because it meant that our entire rotation would have to be healthy and effective for us not to see Wright/Wilson/Lee.

There's no guarantee that Bundy is going to be healthy. Or Miley is going to be effective. Or Tillman is going to be pitching for the O's this year.

So, yeah. We're in a rock and a hard place right now. There's no impact depth. Basically a bunch of AAAA pitchers at this point. That doesn't bode well.

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5 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

 

I honestly don't think Mike Wright, Tyler Wilson, Chris Lee or any of them are viable options.

If I'm being honest, I have more faith in a Doug Fister or Colby Lewis. But not by a lot.

I was honestly a bit miffed when Duquette traded Yovani Gallardo because it meant that our entire rotation would have to be healthy and effective for us not to see Wright/Wilson/Lee.

There's no guarantee that Bundy is going to be healthy. Or Miley is going to be effective. Or Tillman is going to be pitching for the O's this year.

So, yeah. We're in a rock and a hard place right now. There's no impact depth. Basically a bunch of AAAA pitchers at this point. That doesn't bode well.

 

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Welcome back.

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I hope that you had a nice few months since October.

 

 

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1 minute ago, OFFNY said:

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Welcome back.

You were indeed a man of your word. oB| 

 

I hope that you had a nice few months since October.

 

 

 

Thanks, man. Glad to be back. I did miss this place. The political landscape is not a pretty situation. This is a good alternative. :)

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3 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I'd rather have a young guy struggle to go 5 or 6 innings than watch Gallardo do the same exact thing.

 

1 minute ago, LookitsPuck said:

I'd rather have the guy that pitches better. :shrug:

Assuming similar levels of production.

I'd rather have someone that works fast and tries to throw strikes.

For purely aesthetic reasons.

 

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On 3/13/2017 at 1:27 PM, LookitsPuck said:

 

They're all poor options. Go out and get someone. 

 

 

On 3/13/2017 at 3:03 PM, FlipTheBird said:

 

Who?

 

 

21 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

 

I honestly don't think Mike Wright, Tyler Wilson, Chris Lee or any of them are viable options.

If I'm being honest, I have more faith in a Doug Fister or Colby Lewis. But not by a lot.

I was honestly a bit miffed when Duquette traded Yovani Gallardo because it meant that our entire rotation would have to be healthy and effective for us not to see Wright/Wilson/Lee.

There's no guarantee that Bundy is going to be healthy. Or Miley is going to be effective. Or Tillman is going to be pitching for the O's this year.

So, yeah. We're in a rock and a hard place right now. There's no impact depth. Basically a bunch of AAAA pitchers at this point. That doesn't bode well.

 

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I also like the idea of acquiring either Doug Fister or Colby Lewis AND keeping Chris Lee to piggyback on said acquisition, for a proverbial "5 and-a-half man" rotation.

I don't like Wilson.

Wright, I think that he has the stuff, but I'm not willing to wing it and take a chance with him just yet.

I like Chris Lee, and I like the idea of taking him north with us, BUT AS A PIGGY-BACKER with a newly acquired Fister or Lewis. Don't completely throw him to the wolves by making him the 5th starter, but give him a chance to show his stuff and get some experience in the Majors as a piggy-backer for one of the other 5 starters.

 

In my rat's ass of an opinion, with Tillman certain to miss at least the first month of the season, the starting rotation needs as much reinforcements as possible ..... and giving ourselves what would essentially be a 6th starter would go a long way toward that reinforcement.

And I feel this way ESPECIALLY considering the fact that we really don't know how long we will be without Tillman. It might be one month, it might be two months, or he might need surgery and miss the entire 2017 season. With that much uncertainty about that status of one of your best starting pitchers, that could be a lot of mental and emotional pressure on a starting rotation, and the team as a whole. 

 

 

 

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