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He couldn't sit Wilson for Brach.  Wilson came in in the eighth to limit the damage.  If he sits Wilson, he is going to potentially run out of arms in the bullpen.

Also, his job is to manage.  Part of that is to show trust in guys in order to see what he has.  There was a time when Brach wasn't the pitcher that he was, but Buck gave him chances and he thrived.

I don't always agree with Buck, but one of his strengths is building guys up by showing confidence in them.  

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During the course of a full season we end up with numerous threads such as this one.  I do think that the Moderators should have a general thread titled as:
"The Over-reactionary Thread"

and move all these types of post to that thread so I can simply skip wasting my time reading them.

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Just now, thezeroes said:

During the course of a full season we end up with numerous threads such as this one.  I do think that the Moderators should have a general thread titled as:
"The Over-reactionary Thread"

and move all these types of post to that thread so I can simply skip wasting my time reading them.

You couldn't tell what type of thread it was from the title?

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

You couldn't tell what type of thread it was from the title?

Oh hell yeah. If they were immediately removed as suggested I would by-pass the process of figuring out who/whom was blowing smoke up some ones *** and only read them for there laughable quality.

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Just now, thezeroes said:

Oh hell yeah. If they were immediately removed as suggested I would by-pass the process of figuring out who/whom was blowing smoke up some ones *** and only read them for there laughable quality.

I'm in favor of moving them to the Rants forum.

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30 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd have been fine with Buck saying Brach wasn't available.  But since he was he should have pitched.

You see zero difference in pitching in a tie game and pitching with a lead. That is where I disagree. I don't think they are the same, playoff game is different. 

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You see zero difference in pitching in a tie game and pitching with a lead. That is where I disagree. I don't think they are the same, playoff game is different. 

It's high leverage.  I wouldn't have pitched Brach with a four run lead or deficit.  Heck I'd be more likely to throw Brach in a tie game than in a three run lead "save situation".

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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's high leverage.  I wouldn't have pitched Brach with a four run lead or deficit.  Heck I'd be more likely to throw Brach in a tie game than in a three run lead "save situation".

They aren't the same to me. Even more when you add in the fact that Brach had pitched back to back. Pitching with a lead you are going for the jugular, pitching with a tie you are merely trying to extend the game. 

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7 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

They aren't the same to me. Even more when you add in the fact that Brach had pitched back to back. Pitching with a lead you are going for the jugular, pitching with a tie you are merely trying to extend the game. 

I agree. I don't want to pitch Brach, but if I have to I risk him for a W rather than a hold.

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52 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's high leverage.  I wouldn't have pitched Brach with a four run lead or deficit.  Heck I'd be more likely to throw Brach in a tie game than in a three run lead "save situation".

Exactly. You use the best pitchers in the most important situations. It's not rocket science. 

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50 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

They aren't the same to me. Even more when you add in the fact that Brach had pitched back to back. Pitching with a lead you are going for the jugular, pitching with a tie you are merely trying to extend the game. 

I already said I would have been fine with Buck saying he wasn't available.  Why bring this up again?  If he can pitch he can pitch, if he can't pitch he can't pitch.

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