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2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

at some point down the road, 70% of all pitchers will need TJ, and when anybody pitcher gets a hangnail, people will panic and assume TJ is needed.

This percentage seems high to me.  Are you sure about 70%?

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16 minutes ago, Number5 said:

This percentage seems high to me.  Are you sure about 70%?

In 2014, it appears the number was about 1/3 of pitchers have had the surgery

 

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Dr. Frank Jobe’s death in the spring of 2014, one third of all MLB pitchers have had Tommy John surgery.

 

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1 hour ago, FlipTheBird said:

Of course. Everyone's on the table, at all times. But it's hard to imagine a team that's acquiring a closer in order to make a push in the race trading a ML-ready player that's good enough to be a regular (be it in the field or on the mound) for ANOTHER team trying to stay in contention.

Exactly. If the Orioles are in the playoff hunt and they are trading with another team in the playoff hunt (or even not in the hunt), Britton would not be part of the trade. Trading Britton in that scenario is wholly unrealistic. A contending team is not going to swap out its closer, especially after the level of dominace Britton has demonstrated the past two years. No GM would do that. The Orioles would have to believe they were not going to make a run at the post-season to trade Britton.

The MFY traded Chapman and Miller last year because the felt/knew they were not going to make a legitimate playoff run. They would have kept both if they had been focused on making the playoffs.

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3 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

Exactly. If the Orioles are in the playoff hunt and they are trading with another team in the playoff hunt (or even not in the hunt), Britton would not be part of the trade. Trading Britton in that scenario is wholly unrealistic. A contending team is not going to swap out its closer, especially after the level of dominace Britton has demonstrated the past two years. No GM would do that. The Orioles would have to believe they were not going to make a run at the post-season to trade Britton.

The MFY traded Chapman and Miller last year because the felt/knew they were not going to make a legitimate playoff run. They would have kept both if they had been focused on making the playoffs.

Precisely.

And people need to step back and realize for a moment that Britton, assuming he comes back from this injury unscathed... is the BEST RELIEF PITCHER IN BASEBALL. If the O's are firmly in the hunt, you can't trade that guy. If you want to move him in the offseason as part of a bullpen restructure, that's fine. But you're not going to deal baseball's best relief man in July if you're in first or second place and battling.

The Yanks actually surged after moving Chapman and Miller, but that was unexpected.

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19 hours ago, Moondoggie said:

At this point he would certainly seem to be the natural successor should the Orioles move Britton during the offseason (or at the deadline if things take a drastic turn and go south). But until that bridge is crossed, I sure like the luxury of having him along with O'Day, Givens & Co. supporting Britton at the back end of the bullpen. 

I do too. 

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31 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Brach looks great and he was excellent in the first half last year.  He was pretty ordinary in the 2nd half.

Right, and some people were concerned that his so-so second half was a sign of some arm injury.    I think we can dismiss that notion.  

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1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

Brach looks great and he was excellent in the first half last year.  He was pretty ordinary in the 2nd half.

Oddly enough he'll pitch less innings in a closer role. Last year we asked him to go 1 IP+ all the time in the first half. O'day being hurt really caused us to run him into the ground. 

Just to play fantasy GM. Imagine the haul we could get for Brach and Britton in the offseason. It could be like what the Yanks got for Miller and Chapman. Enough to make us have a top 10 farm system and lower 2018 payroll by 15ish million. Not going to happen, but that's how you extend our window and keep Machado and Schoop. 

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