Does Trumbo have a no trade clause?

[InsideCoroner]

27 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I agree with a lot of what you said, but this part is crazy thinking.   Who cares about his non-HR batting average?    Would you feel better if he had hit five singles instead of five homers?

Take away Britton's 47 saves last year and the guy was a AAAA journeyman! AJ's non-HR slugging percentage was like .261. Sell! Sell it all and tear it down before it's too late!

[Moondoggie]

37 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I agree with a lot of what you said, but this part is crazy thinking.   Who cares about his non-HR batting average?    Would you feel better if he had hit five singles instead of five homers?

But unless you think he's going to hit 60 homers, it's relevant that he hasn't really hit very well aside from the home runs. Unless he starts getting more hits, he's probably not going to threaten the jobs of others because the home run pace isn't sustainable without it.

Looking back, the year Chris Davis hit 53 he had 167 hits on the season. Had he only had 106 hits, it would have been really strange.

[Frobby]

47 minutes ago, Moondoggie said:

But unless you think he's going to hit 60 homers, it's relevant that he hasn't really hit very well aside from the home runs. Unless he starts getting more hits, he's probably not going to threaten the jobs of others because the home run pace isn't sustainable without it.

Looking back, the year Chris Davis hit 53 he had 167 hits on the season. Had he only had 106 hits, it would have been really strange.

You're not making a lot of sense to me.    Obviously, I'm not expecting Mancini to hit 48 home runs, as he's currently on pace to do.    But I do expect him to put up a batting average in the .250+ range, as he's doing now.    You don't just take away the homers, you assume most of those will be other kinds of hits.    

[Can_of_corn]

2 hours ago, Aglets said:

Maybe if we sell low on Trumbo now we'll be able to get some high quality cash considerations (+ or - a PTBNL).

I wish.  The O's would be lucky to get someone to just assume the contract.  More likely they would have to eat some of the money to get a "C" prospect back.

[Moondoggie]

51 minutes ago, Frobby said:

You're not making a lot of sense to me.    Obviously, I'm not expecting Mancini to hit 48 home runs, as he's currently on pace to do.    But I do expect him to put up a batting average in the .250+ range, as he's doing now.    You don't just take away the homers, you assume most of those will be other kinds of hits.    

But the point is that if he does hit .250 it's not going to be with half his hits being home runs. It's just not sustainable. And the home runs are what has everyone overly excited right now. If he goes on hitting .250 and the home run rate drops significantly (i.e., more in line with his projection of about 20 a year with full-time play), he's not forcing them to trade Trumbo. In fact, in order to even out, he's going to have to go through something of a home run drought. Right how his career HR/FB rate is 66.7. That's going to get a lot lower.

[Rene88]

58 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I wish.  The O's would be lucky to get someone to just assume the contract.  More likely they would have to eat some of the money to get a "C" prospect back.

Trumbo started off hot last season, not so much this year. Who knows.

I was fine with Trumbo despite my gut thinking we could have gotten him for less. Davis needs protection and that is important. I wanted to resign Cruz originally despite his age. 

But the Gallardo and Ubaldo signings really just hurt. They were just awful awful moves.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Trumbo started off hot last season, not so much this year. Who knows.

I was fine with Trumbo despite my gut thinking we could have gotten him for less. Davis needs protection and that is important. I wanted to resign Cruz originally despite his age. 

But the Gallardo and Ubaldo signings really just hurt. They were just awful awful moves.

Way I look at it we didn't hear anything about other teams being interested and Trumbo himself alluded to the fact there was little interest.  Why would someone want him now?   Aside from the prospect going to the O's would be worth less than the draft pick.

[jabba72]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I wish.  The O's would be lucky to get someone to just assume the contract.  More likely they would have to eat some of the money to get a "C" prospect back.

His trade value is the other team taking his contract.  

[Frobby]

22 minutes ago, Moondoggie said:

But the point is that if he does hit .250 it's not going to be with half his hits being home runs. It's just not sustainable. And the home runs are what has everyone overly excited right now. If he goes on hitting .250 and the home run rate drops significantly (i.e., more in line with his projection of about 20 a year with full-time play), he's not forcing them to trade Trumbo. In fact, in order to even out, he's going to have to go through something of a home run drought. Right how his career HR/FB rate is 66.7. That's going to get a lot lower.

Well, I can't disagree with anything in this post.    One comment about Mancini's HR/FB ratio:   Mancini's homers have traveled 433, 432, 422, 422, 410, 408, 401 and 397 feet (true distance, per ESPN Hit Tracker).   So it's not like his homers are due to getting lucky with where he hit the ball.   I personally thought he'd be a 20-25 homer guy, but having seen the distance on his homers both this year and last year, I think he's capable of more, if he continues to make contact often enough.    The jury's still out, and talk of trading Trumbo now is premature.    

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

O's are stuck with Trumbo, no value or scenario that makes in trading him right now.  Unless the O's can swindle the Mariners yet again.    

It's only April, hopefully he breaks out of this slump.  Trumbo has been a better first half player during his career.  

I would have rolled with Mancini and/or Alvarez at DH if it was my choice.  

[1968_bills_fan]

Some of the following is maybe subjective and from seat of the pants feelings about the game.  Anyway.....

 

Trumbo and Davis are home run hitters.   A common characteristic of them is that they hit dingers in batches.   Historically you keep them playing and just have to be patient until the good times start.   Wouldn't it be nice if you could predict which weeks the good times were going to be?   Right now having them in the batting order does do the following- it wears on the pitchers who spend a lot of mental and physical energy worrying about them, and then relax a bit on the bottom of the order.  A nice thing for us, is that the bottom of the order also can hit home runs and does.