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22 hours ago, Ruzious said:

It's ironic that Wieters is getting a lot of credit for Gio Gonzales' great season.  Wieters is the same guy who supposedly couldn't frame and call pitches with the O's.  

The Oriole couldn't/shouldn't have waited out Boras, I agree. But I believe that if Wieters had played every inning that Beef did this year for the Orioles, the team might just be two games over .500 instead of under. Pitch-framing stats and WARs be damned, Castillo does not know Orioles' pitchers as well a Wieters did. Between bad pitch calling and not recognizing cues from his pitchers, Castillo's defense has hurt the team much more than the current popular statistical measurements reflect.

I will dance a little jig when Beef opts out. And I will thank him for being a one-year bridge to the future and wish him the best.

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2 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

The Oriole couldn't/shouldn't have waited out Boras, I agree. But I believe that if Wieters had played every inning that Beef did this year for the Orioles, the team might just be two games over .500 instead of under. Pitch-framing stats and WARs be damned, Castillo does not know Orioles' pitchers as well a Wieters did. Between bad pitch calling and not recognizing cues from his pitchers, Castillo's defense has hurt the team much more than the current popular statistical measurements reflect.

I will dance a little jig when Beef opts out. And I will thank him for being a one-year bridge to the future and wish him the best.

There is one thing we agree on - he's going to opt out. 

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2 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

Wellington Castillo is gold.  We need to sign him.   It is not his fault Ubaldo gives up 6 runs.

Yeah, I don't think Castillo is calling for Ubaldo to throw hanging nothingballs in the middle of the strike zone.  

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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Castillo couldn't be any hotter than he is right now.    And Buck is riding the wave -- Caleb didn't start a game in this series, even the day game that followed a night game.

Exactly, if you are going to hang Castillo for Ubaldo, how much credit do you give for his catching the best game in at least a decade from an Oriole pitcher.  And he went 4-4 today...I'm thinking Buck made a good call.  

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7 minutes ago, foxfield said:

Exactly, if you are going to hang Castillo for Ubaldo, how much credit do you give for his catching the best game in at least a decade from an Oriole pitcher.  And he went 4-4 today...I'm thinking Buck made a good call.  

Bundy's the one guy in the rotation who has a lower ERA with Castillo than Joseph.   

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That's good info, thanks Frobby.  I struggle with some of the metrics for catchers.  Caleb and Beef have both played well in 17.  I don't know for example if Beef's deficiency shows up with bullpen too.  He sure didn't seem to negatively affect Castro or Bleier or O'Day today.  I for one would like to have em both back and if Beef leaves on his own...I can live with that too but ill be nervous about it.

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25 minutes ago, foxfield said:

That's good info, thanks Frobby.  I struggle with some of the metrics for catchers.  Caleb and Beef have both played well in 17.  I don't know for example if Beef's deficiency shows up with bullpen too.  He sure didn't seem to negatively affect Castro or Bleier or O'Day today.  I for one would like to have em both back and if Beef leaves on his own...I can live with that too but ill be nervous about it.

I haven't looked at each bullpen pitcher, but I can infer that most have done better with Castillo.    I say that because the overall ERA difference between Joseph and Castillo is about a run and a half, but several of the starters are 2-4 runs higher with Castillo, so the relievers must be lower.    I have mixed feelings about making too much about catcher ERA's, but in this case I do have concerns because the differences are fairly drastic.  

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