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Well since the Orioles are going to win the division, I completely agree. 

Would love to get JA Happ if he's available but I doubt the Jays are dealing 

Guys I'd target 

1) Andrew Cashner : 50.4 % groundball rate. Could always go to the pen if he struggles 

2) RA Dickey: He'd eat a lot of innings and knuckleballs are cool 

3) Jeff Samardzija: He has a WHIP around 1.2 and strikes out over 9 per game. If SF eats a bit of his contract, we have him under control for another three years so he helps this year and next year. FIP of 3.53. Would be most expensive 

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25 minutes ago, ORIOLE33 said:

Not really. We're all pretty bunched up. Plus, we we play just about every team we're chasing. 

We control our own destiny.

We are still below .500. I don't see how the team could catch the Yankees and or BoSox. 

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1 minute ago, Tx Oriole said:

We are still below .500. I don't see how the team could catch the Yankees and or BoSox. 

Why would they have to catch one of those two?

I get that playoffs are a tough proposition, but some of you are WAY overcorrecting in the opposite direction. 

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5 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

Well since the Orioles are going to win the division, I completely agree. 

Would love to get JA Happ if he's available but I doubt the Jays are dealing 

Guys I'd target 

1) Andrew Cashner : 50.4 % groundball rate. Could always go to the pen if he struggles 

2) RA Dickey: He'd eat a lot of innings and knuckleballs are cool 

3) Jeff Samardzija: He has a WHIP around 1.2 and strikes out over 9 per game. If SF eats a bit of his contract, we have him under control for another three years so he helps this year and next year. FIP of 3.53. Would be most expensive 

Wildcard... ok, maybe we have a shot. Division isn't going to happen. Redsox would have to go into a huge slump and I just don't see that with their rotation. 

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6 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

Well since the Orioles are going to win the division, I completely agree. 

Would love to get JA Happ if he's available but I doubt the Jays are dealing 

Guys I'd target 

1) Andrew Cashner : 50.4 % groundball rate. Could always go to the pen if he struggles 

2) RA Dickey: He'd eat a lot of innings and knuckleballs are cool 

3) Jeff Samardzija: He has a WHIP around 1.2 and strikes out over 9 per game. If SF eats a bit of his contract, we have him under control for another three years so he helps this year and next year. FIP of 3.53. Would be most expensive 

And what prospects would we have to give up to get one of the pitchers you mentioned?  Would the cost be worth it? 

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13 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

How could we possibly make up TWO games over two months?!?!?  :eek:


We can't do it by beating the Royals head-on, because we don't play them anymore. The point was that we don't have the ability to do it on our own. We need help.

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14 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

 

3) Jeff Samardzija: He has a WHIP around 1.2 and strikes out over 9 per game. If SF eats a bit of his contract, we have him under control for another three years so he helps this year and next year. FIP of 3.53. Would be most expensive 

To get him or Verlander we'd have to give up a prospect which is fine with me since we keep them for the future, but some salary would have to be eaten by the other team. 

Who do you give up though? Maybe Mountcastle? I don't want to give up our OF  or SP prospects.

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6 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

And what prospects would we have to give up to get one of the pitchers you mentioned?  Would the cost be worth it? 

I don't think one month of RA Dickey or Andrew Cashner is going to cost a lot prospect wise. They are both free agents after this year. Anyone who is in the bottom half of our top 30 prospects not named Stewart or Wells can go. 

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54 minutes ago, 99ct said:

That was such a well-pitched game. Not hard to throw 95 in the 8th when your pitch count is so low. For Miley, that would have been about 2 outs in the 4th!

Even though Bundy was very strong in the 8th, I do think he benefits from not throwing every fifth day.    We'd be wise to find ways to get him extra days between starts when we can.   And Buck seems to have a plan for doing that.   

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2 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

To get him or Verlander we'd have to give up a prospect which is fine with me since we keep them for the future, but some salary would have to be eaten by the other team. 

Who do you give up though? Maybe Mountcastle? I don't want to give up our OF  or SP prospects.

That's the thing. I don't think we have the prospects to make it happen. If the Giants just want salary relief, then I make that trade but I'm not giving up any of our top 15 prospects. 

The other two guys are more likely. 

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22 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

Why would they have to catch one of those two?

I get that playoffs are a tough proposition, but some of you are WAY overcorrecting in the opposite direction. 

It's just an opinion I have. I just hate to see the team crippled for several years because DD gave up top prospects for say a very good pitcher at the outside chance of making the playoffs. As for the Yankees we have 7 games with them. We'd have to win what 5 or 6 of them? I don't how many games we have left with Boston. Trip to the West Coast doesn't always work the best for the O's. I just don't to see DD screw up the teams future for an outside chance at a playoff. The farm is not very good. I don't won't to see him give away anymore of it in a trade. Sorry if this upsets you. 

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8 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

I don't think one month of RA Dickey or Andrew Cashner is going to cost a lot prospect wise. They are both free agents after this year. Anyone who is in the bottom half of our top 30 prospects not named Stewart or Wells can go. 

Only if their teams GM would take a lower prospect. Sorry but I  just don't won't to see DD screw up the farm worse. I don't believe the O's can make it this year. 

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