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Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

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Sometimes I wish we could stop relitigating the wisdom of the Davis contract, and just focus on what we can hope to get out of Davis the next few years and exactly what's wrong with him.

Taken in isolation, a .744 OPS season with above average defense isn't the end of the world.   But for me, the really worrisome issue is Davis' inability to pull the trigger and swing at pitches that obviously are strikes.    It was a bit of a problem last year, but a much bigger problem this year.   I'm not sure I see how it can get better.   I'd like to hope he can bounce back but to be honest I'm not that hopeful.    As between him and Trumbo, I think Trumbo has a better chance of a rebound.

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33 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Sometimes I wish we could stop relitigating the wisdom of the Davis contract, and just focus on what we can hope to get out of Davis the next few years and exactly what's wrong with him.

Taken in isolation, a .744 OPS season with above average defense isn't the end of the world.   But for me, the really worrisome issue is Davis' inability to pull the trigger and swing at pitches that obviously are strikes.    It was a bit of a problem last year, but a much bigger problem this year.   I'm not sure I see how it can get better.   I'd like to hope he can bounce back but to be honest I'm not that hopeful.    As between him and Trumbo, I think Trumbo has a better chance of a rebound.

I wonder if there has been anything diagnosed like the yips in MLB, but for batting? Someone, maybe even Dave Johnson on some postgame radio show, that Davis has seemed like an automatic out for some time now. 

It's really sad how many teams have passed us in the WC race in the last week. The only positive I have today is that I bought a new baseball glove today, my first new one in 18 years. 

 

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When we traded for Trumbo, that should have been it for Davis. When Trumbo became a FA and we had Mancini, that should have been it for Trumbo. Either one of them by themselves, without the other or Mancini would not have been so bad. Having two expensive players around when we have someone who can do it for cheap is the problem.

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On 9/12/2017 at 9:28 PM, bigdomke1 said:

I've got a crazy idea, and would love some input. What if we traded Davis for a solid starter. Mancini could take 1st base. Defense would take a small hit, but the rotation would improve offense should be a push, and money could be banked for machado. Then trade trumBo for another solid starter. Beckham could dh, with JJ at shortsop. We now would have the money to keep Machado, have a rotation that wouldn't be the laughing stock of mlb, and I think, the potential to win a string of championships. Let me know if I'm nuts.

You asked for it. You're nuts.

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I just wonder what happened to Chris.. I mean he looks like he doesn't have a clue at the plate anymore. He's totally guessing at pitches and that's why he's looking at so many strike 3 pitches. He's just so unproductive at the plate, it's really hard to watch anymore.

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1 hour ago, MDK02 said:

I just wonder what happened to Chris.. I mean he looks like he doesn't have a clue at the plate anymore. He's totally guessing at pitches and that's why he's looking at so many strike 3 pitches. He's just so unproductive at the plate, it's really hard to watch anymore.

Extremely hard to watch.  I feel bad for the guy.  He's a lost soul up there.

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I think we need to remember that, for all his struggles, Davis has a .744 OPS for the season.    That's awful for a guy making $23 mm/yr, and very subpar for a 1B, but it's not minor league material.   There are several 1B in the league who are worse.     It's the salary and the optics of the called strikeouts that make it seem worse than it is.

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8 hours ago, Frobby said:

Sometimes I wish we could stop relitigating the wisdom of the Davis contract, and just focus on what we can hope to get out of Davis the next few years and exactly what's wrong with him.

Taken in isolation, a .744 OPS season with above average defense isn't the end of the world.   But for me, the really worrisome issue is Davis' inability to pull the trigger and swing at pitches that obviously are strikes.    It was a bit of a problem last year, but a much bigger problem this year.   I'm not sure I see how it can get better.   I'd like to hope he can bounce back but to be honest I'm not that hopeful.    As between him and Trumbo, I think Trumbo has a better chance of a rebound.

But isn't this year more like Trumbo then the previous year? 

2014- 14 hrs,61 RBI's only 362 AB's.

2015- 22 hrs, 64 RB''s.

Since 2014 he has been average except for last year. He is also going to be 32, 

 

 

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But isn't this year more like Trumbo then the previous year? 

2014- 14 hrs,61 RBI's only 362 AB's.

2015- 22 hrs, 64 RB''s.

Since 2014 he has been average except for last year. He is also going to be 32, 

 

 

Davis is also going to be 32.    I'm not saying I think a bounce back by Trumbo is highly likely, I'm just saying I like his chances better than Davis'.   And the reason I like his chances better is that he's not having a problem getting the bat off his shoulder or identifying pitches in the way Davis is.

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Agree with Frobby, at this point there is no reason to debate trading CD or his contract because it ain't happening. My only hope- and I am probably grasping at straws- is that he has a history of being very hot or very cold, and this is a prolonged cold spell. Unlikely, but I'm hoping he gets his groove back, because he isn't going anywhere. 

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