Could The Orioles Sign RHP R.A. Dickey?

[PressBoxOnline]

Even at 42, R.A. Dickey was an innings-eater in 2017, something the Orioles desperately need. 

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[paulcoates]

God, please no

[24fps]

The Orioles desperately need something more than innings merely being "eaten".  They need a couple of starting pitchers who will grind innings under their heel and leave them for dead.

[o'sfansince1970]

It is so sad to see a thread like this. With the pitching heritage this franchise has, this is where we are. Freaking RA Dickey. Long term, the only answer is to get serious about the minors and grow some arms. There is no way PA will pay what is necessary to have a true #1-6. This past season we had two #3s and four #6s. Truthfully that is being generous.

[Tx Oriole]

24 minutes ago, o'sfansince1970 said:

It is so sad to see a thread like this. With the pitching heritage this franchise has, this is where we are. Freaking RA Dickey. Long term, the only answer is to get serious about the minors and grow some arms. There is no way PA will pay what is necessary to have a true #1-6. This past season we had two #3s and four #6s. Truthfully that is being generous.

It's a sad state what has become of the Orioles pitching. 

[weams]

I watched last night. We are so far from having those teams it is time to punt. 

[Can_of_corn]

28 minutes ago, weams said:

I watched last night. We are so far from having those teams it is time to punt. 

That was a pretty game, a real pretty game.

[Ruzious]

1 hour ago, o'sfansince1970 said:

It is so sad to see a thread like this. With the pitching heritage this franchise has, this is where we are. Freaking RA Dickey. Long term, the only answer is to get serious about the minors and grow some arms. There is no way PA will pay what is necessary to have a true #1-6. This past season we had two #3s and four #6s. Truthfully that is being generous.

Probably so.  Unfortunately, it's not a quick process - developing starting pitchers.  I think they have done better the last 3 drafts, but If we can get a solid #3 starter in free agency, it'd sure help.    

[clapdiddy]

34 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

That was a pretty game, a real pretty game.

Just goes to show you...it all starts on the bump.   You got nothing on the bump...you get bumped.

[weams]

2 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

Probably so.  Unfortunately, it's not a quick process - developing starting pitchers.  I think they have done better the last 3 drafts, but If we can get a solid #3 starter in free agency, it'd sure help.    

Took the Astros dead last for seven seasons. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Took the Astros dead last for seven seasons. 

I'd rather watch kids lose 100 than guys in their 30's lose 87.

[weams]

21 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd rather watch kids lose 100 than guys in their 30's lose 87.

Which we have done. Not so long ago. Jay Payton anyone?

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, weams said:

Which we have done. Not so long ago. Jay Payton anyone?

Not long at all.

[SteveA]

20 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd rather watch kids lose 100 than guys in their 30's lose 87.

Those Houston teams weren't always losing with kids.

2011 -- 56 wins -- Altuve was the ONLY prospect in the everyday lineup.   All the starting pitchers were 26+ except Jordan Lyles.   Bud Norris,  Wandy Rodriguez, etc.   It wasn't an exciting young team.   It was a crap team similar to the Trembley Orioles, with one exciting young player.

2012 -- 55 wins -- Once again Altuve of course.   A 24 year old JD Martinez who they ended up dumping.   Aging Carlos Lee.  Brian Bogusevic was the starting RF!   Keuchel got 16 starts.   So two future players worth watching, 3 if you count Martinez but they thought so little of him they released him in spring of 2014.

2013 -- 51 wins.  Altuve again, JD again.   LJ Hoes starting in the outfield.   A young Jonathan Villar  with a .640 OPS.   Keuchel again.   The last dying gasps of Erik Bedard's career.   Once again, only about 3 or 4 players worth watching.

I'm not saying the results don't make it worth it.   But I don't think watching the 2011-2013 Astros was significantly more enjoyable to fans who had to actually live through every game than it was for us to watch the 2009-2011 Orioles.   Or any 3 consecutive seasons you want to choose between 1998 and 2011.   I think you are romanticizing it.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, SteveA said:

Those Houston teams weren't always losing with kids.

2011 -- 56 wins -- Altuve was the ONLY prospect in the everyday lineup.   All the starting pitchers were 26+ except Jordan Lyles.   Bud Norris,  Wandy Rodriguez, etc.   It wasn't an exciting young team.   It was a crap team similar to the Trembley Orioles, with one exciting young player.

2012 -- 55 wins -- Once again Altuve of course.   A 24 year old JD Martinez who they ended up dumping.   Aging Carlos Lee.  Brian Bogusevic was the starting RF!   Keuchel got 16 starts.   So two future players worth watching, 3 if you count Martinez but they thought so little of him they released him in spring of 2014.

2013 -- 51 wins.  Altuve again, JD again.   LJ Hoes starting in the outfield.   A young Jonathan Villar  with a .640 OPS.   Keuchel again.   The last dying gasps of Erik Bedard's career.   Once again, only about 3 or 4 players worth watching.

I'm not saying the results don't make it worth it.   But I don't think watching the 2011-2013 Astros was significantly more enjoyable to fans who had to actually live through every game than it was for us to watch the 2009-2011 Orioles.   Or any 3 consecutive seasons you want to choose between 1998 and 2011.   I think you are romanticizing it.

I'm not romanticizing anything.

You can't take a bad core and add older second tier free agents and expect it to turn into anything.

That is what the O's did for a decade.

I'd rather lose 100 than putter around with 90 loss teams that won't go anywhere.