Cashner signing

[Il BuonO]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Can we at least go with Kasmir if we are going to do this?

Nah, Cortes is the lefty. I like Kazmir though.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Il BuonO said:

Don’t get me wrong, definitely an upgrade over Jimenez, Miley, Hellickson or Tillman. And he didn’t cost much. I just don’t expect he what he did last year.

If anyone thought he could duplicate last year's results he would have beat 2/16.

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Nothing guarantees it, but there sure is a positive relationship between the two.

Cortes has very good K/9 numbers, and thats why i am encouraged that he might be able to stick as a #5 guy.

Can't be much worse than Miley last season?

[interloper]

Just now, Redskins Rick said:

His name is Cortes and he is already here.

I hope so! He's an interesting wrinkle in our rotation if he pans out.

[Dark Helmet]

23 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

What the heck does Gausman have to with this?

About as much as Gallardo does with Cashner. But whatever.

[atomic]

48 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Gallardo put up a 4.1 in 2015.

Gallardo's season with us was better than Tillman's, Miley's and Jiminez's 2017.   He doesn't have to be great to be an improvement.  Figure we need at least 6 starters this year. He is bound to be better than whomever would have been our 6th starter if we hadn't signed him.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Il BuonO said:

Nah, Cortes is the lefty. I like Kazmir though.

Posting too fast, the joke didn't work at all.  Spellcheck changed Cashner to Cashmere and I tried to make a Led Zepplin joke.

Flew about as well as a ....well you know.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, cimota said:

Gallardo's season with us was better than Tillman's, Miley's and Jiminez's 2017.   He doesn't have to be great to be an improvement.  Figure we need at least 6 starters this year. He is bound to be better than whomever would have been our 6th starter if we hadn't signed him.

Once again I don't have a problem with the signing.  It isn't big money and they had a pretty glaring need.

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Posting too fast, the joke didn't work at all.  Spellcheck changed Cashner to Cashmere and I tried to make a Led Zepplin joke.

Flew about as well as a ....well you know.

so many people talking about Cashner, its been hard to follow.

[MatthewW]

9 minutes ago, TradeAngelos said:

Wait so you are complaining we signed a starting pitcher for 8m a year? And using Ynoa as an example? Lord. 

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I think that Ynoa deserves a spot in the starting rotation... My point is simply, for a team with so few resources, why would you spend $8M for the same production as someone you already have? 

 

We aren't talking about someone like Guthrie or Miguel Gonzalez who seem to consistently outperform their peripherals. I think you can probably count on one hand the number of guys (there's a Reddit post saying it's NEVER been done) who even came close to repeating that kind of "luck".

[interloper]

So what does this tell us about the Orioles plans for the offseason? I still feel like they are totally winging it. They're clearly more interesting in less years for pitchers to minimize risk and to set up the next GM decently. 

Are they done? Or will it be a standard Duquette offseason where he tends to spend the money that's available? How much money is available? Who knows.

The next move, if any, will say a lot. If they stand pat here with the pitching, then they won't have convinced me that they have a real plan.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

so many people talking about Cashner, its been hard to follow.

I throw a lot of them out there and sometimes they fall completely flat.

Nature of the game.

[Babypowder]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Once again I don't have a problem with the signing.  It isn't big money and they had a pretty glaring need.

This is where I am. The terms make it hard to be upset with it, but I fully expect Cashner to be pretty bad. I'm thinking 5+ ERA.

[atomic]

The big question is will he be able to keep the beard.  The Orioles should change their beard rules for him. 

[wildcard]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

So what does this tell us about the Orioles plans for the offseason? I still feel like they are totally winging it. They're clearly more interesting in less years for pitchers to minimize risk and to set up the next GM decently. 

Are they done? Or will it be a standard Duquette offseason where he tends to spend the money that's available? How much money is available? Who knows.

The next move, if any, will say a lot. If they stand pat here with the pitching, then they won't have convinced me that they have a real plan.

If the next signing is Tillman if will not tell us much.