Tillman back. Are we happy?

[atomic]

3 hours ago, theocean said:

I like it too. 175 innings is a lot for any pitcher. The $3m base makes it easy to cut ties if he's awful.

He has pitched at least 172 innings in 4 of the last 5 years.

[Nevermore]

Nevermore is BACK!! And so is Tilly!

Grand Poobah of the Chris Tillman fan club.

[wildcard]

If Tillman has a normal season he will earn 6.5m.  3m base plus 3.5m in incentives.   That means he would have pitch 175 innings.   He pitched 173 in 2015 and 172 in 2016.  He has not pitched 200 innings since 2014.   The 190 inning and 200 inning incentive targets look hard for him to reach.  They are worth 3.5m.

[TheDeau52]

17 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

Or if he is that bad, he'll get DFAed.

Good point.

[theobird]

It is clearly a win-win contract for the Orioles. And I am sure that the Orioles hope to pay Tillman 10M for 2018, because that will mean he is back and at 100%. That's the best case scenario for Tillman and the team. The worst case for both parties is 3 M and done.

[Redskins Rick]

31 minutes ago, theobird said:

It is clearly a win-win contract for the Orioles. And I am sure that the Orioles hope to pay Tillman 10M for 2018, because that will mean he is back and at 100%. That's the best case scenario for Tillman and the team. The worst case for both parties is 3 M and done.

Actually, if he sucks, they DFA, they dont owe him 3m, just a prorated portion. Right?

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Actually, if he sucks, they DFA, they dont owe him 3m, just a prorated portion. Right?

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Players who are on arbitration (unless specified at the time of the agreement), Minor League or split contracts are not fully guaranteed their salaries.

Players on arbitration contracts who are cut on or before the 16th day of Spring Training are owed 30 days' termination pay (based on the prorated version of his agreed-upon arbitration salary). A player cut between the 16th day and the end of Spring Training is owed 45 days' termination pay (based on the prorated version of his agreed-upon arbitration salary).

I read that as saying Tillman's contract is guaranteed in full and the O's would have to pay his full salary.

 

http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/non-guaranteed-contract

[TouchemAll]

14 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Actually, if he sucks, they DFA, they dont owe him 3m, just a prorated portion. Right?

Pretty sure its guaranteed $$, but ya know what with what pitching costs really are in MLB I don't have a and issue with it. I think it's still 50 50 he makes a succesful come back, but if he does it will be a difference maker for this team.

A 3 mil gamble is chump change in MLB $$ for pitching. hoping what the O''s and Buck have seen of him is for real

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, TouchemAll said:

Pretty sure its guaranteed $$, but ya know what with what pitching costs really are in MLB I don't have a and issue with it. I think it's still 50 50 he makes a succesful come back, but if he does it will be a difference maker for this team.

A 3 mil gamble is chump change in MLB $$ for pitching.

True

[mdbdotcom]

Haven't heard much about Tillman since his signing. Is he scheduled to pitch anytime soon in a regular game, B game or simulated game?

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, mdbdotcom said:

Haven't heard much about Tillman since his signing. Is he scheduled to pitch anytime soon in a regular game, B game or simulated game?

Woudln't be shocked if Buck's plan is to hide him (from the fans as well as the opposition).

[mdbdotcom]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Woudln't be shocked if Buck's plan is to hide him (from the fans as well as the opposition).

Was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to come across as "negative."

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to come across as "negative."

I'll wear the mantle. 

[weams]

11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'll wear the mantle. 

~d will get the scoop from him in a day or two and I'll let you know. 

[Number5]

15 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'll wear the mantle.