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Just now, LookitsPuck said:

"Fine". Career MiLB numbers:

.256/.357/.417 -  .773 OPS

I hope he can be a regular major leaguer/contributor for the Orioles. He's a good kid.

Right, he isn't killing it. 

He looks like he's got a decent shot to be a 2 win player for a half dozen years.  Which is pretty much what I said when they drafted him.  Is he a year or so behind where I thought he would be?  Sure.

He gets on base, the defense is an improvement over what we have out there now and he's got a bit of pop and speed.

Acceptable for his draft spot.

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3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Right, he isn't killing it. 

He looks like he's got a decent shot to be a 2 win player for a half dozen years.  Which is pretty much what I said when they drafted him.  Is he a year or so behind where I thought he would be?  Sure.

He gets on base, the defense is an improvement over what we have out there now and he's got a bit of pop and speed.

Acceptable for his draft spot.

I hope you're right.

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8 hours ago, wildcard said:

Dan Connolly says that Dan Duquette,  Roger McDowell and Scott Coolbaugh are all vulnerable to being fired  on today's off day.   A consequence of the O's 8-26  record.

http://www.baltimorebaseball.com/2018/05/07/early-may-feels-like-perfect-fall-day-birdland/

Ken Rosenthall agrees as stated in MLBTR:

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But I don't see any on that happening.   Peter Angelos does not fire managers and GM and pay for a second one.   He just puts them in a corner and waits until their contract runs out.  That is what I think happens to Dan.   The argument that Connolly gives for fire Dan is the O's  will make major trades between now and the end of July and a lame duck GM should not make them.   And Dan will not be making those decisions.   But the decision makers that replace him are all ready in place.   Buck, Brady, John and Lou are already on the job.   They will make those decisions IMO.  

As far as the coaches goes, Buck will protect them.

I do agree that heads could roll either today or soon.    But it will be players heads.   Schoop will return tomorrow to improve the team defense and  as soon as he gets him timing down to help the offense.   Veilma will likely be optioned,

The O's may DFA Tillman and promote Melville to the 5th spot in the rotation.

The O's may claim Luis Santo off waivers and DFA Mike Wright.  

And Saturday, Santander is probably  being optioned and Joey Rickard is called up. 

Those of the 4 changes that I see as more likely than Dan, Scoot or Roger being sent packing.

I think you nailed it.

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6 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

I disagree. You may know some of this because I'e been leaking a lot of this over time in posts, but Dan basically just confirmed that the team is made up of several "architects" and that Brady was the one in charge this offseason. He also made some great points, if Duquette is fired, that pretty much concludes that Brady will be the major architect o the rebuild. If none of Buck's coaches are fired or Buck himself, it means that Buck will continue working with Brady on the rebuild and will be back.

If Buck's coaches are fired, it would mean that Brady is putting down the law and that Buck is vulnerable after he season unless Brady know the manager of the future that he wants and he's available.

The article was right on the nose from what I know.

Like I said before if Buck and Brady or one or the other gave the OK for Tillman then they both or the one responsible should be shown the door they should NOT BE NEAR personnel decisions. It's by far one the WORSE decisions other then the Davis contracts I've seen.

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5 minutes ago, TouchemAll said:

Like I said before if Buck and Brady or one or the other gave the OK for Tillman then they both or the one responsible should be shown the door they should NOT BE NEAR personnel decisions. It's by far one the WORSE decisions other then the Davis contracts I've seen.

I'm not so sure bringing Tillman back on a 1 year $3m deal is one of the worse/worst decision. It's certainly idiotic, but not nearly as bad as Ubaldo, Gallardo or trading Davies for less than a half season of Parra, IMHO.

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6 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

I'm not so sure bringing Tillman back on a 1 year $3m deal is one of the worse/worst decision. It's certainly idiotic, but not nearly as bad as Ubaldo, Gallardo or trading Davies for less than a half season of Parra, IMHO.

It was a bad move compounded by the fact that they continue to start him. That latter's on Buck. Goes back to the point I made earlier about him being stubborn to a fault. I honestly feel like the more pressure he gets from the media / fans to bench Davis and cut Tillman the less likely he is to do it. I'm not saying you should let the fans dictate what you do, but there comes a time when you have to check your stubbornness and ego at the door and made the obvious moves. 

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8 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I'm not sure what firing Buck does right now, other than the appease the OH horde who is extremely thirsty for blood these days. 

You're probably going to get a 2nd rate manager in here that's just going to be replaced in the offseason after a proper manager search has been done.  But I get it, you guys need to see heads roll to make yourselves feel better.  

If you think that Buck had a hand in personnel moves such as signing Trumbo to 3/37, then you would seek to remove that influence ASAP.  The Orioles are likely making trades to bolster their farm in the near future and you wouldn't want someone whose personnel evaluation skills you don't trust in a leadership position.

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8 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

We’re not attracting people like those organizations did. Buck as a coach, with some input, is the very best we can get. 

Everyone says fire Buck. Who the heck are we going to get?  We gotta stick with him. Reign him in a little with personnel decsisions. 

His replacement is John Russell. Learn to live with it. 

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