Orioles: Most inept organization in all of profesional sports?

[scOtt]

The only reason I'm not down is that Wright is the other alternative. Rock and a hard place...

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Just now, Rick_Schu said:

Yeah, I love Tilly, but it’s over. Wright until Harvey is close to ready 

 

I don't Harvey is going to be ready soon enough,  Wright get 2 to 3 starts, and if he stinks the Orioles need to find someone else.  

[eddie83]

1 minute ago, TINSTAAPP said:

Didn't Palmer end up retiring the following year?

Yes.  I thought he went to minors in 83 because he was hurt. 

I think his point is obvious. Go down and work on stuff down there, not up here.  

[amdcpus]

1 minute ago, scOtt said:

The only reason I'm not down is that Wright is the other alternative. Rock and a hard place...

Wright is much better than Tillman.

[scOtt]

1 minute ago, amdcpus said:

Wright is much better than Tillman.

That's an opinion.

[scOtt]

Just now, scOtt said:

That's an opinion.

Tillman is old rusty cast iron. Wright is tin foil.

 

In machinist parlance...

[eddie83]

Buck just said “it’s not there right now”. 

“Not a good outing, it’s obvious, command an issue and stuff isn’t where it needed to be. We needed some innings out of him.”

[scOtt]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Buck just said “it’s not there right now”. 

“Not a good outing, it’s obvious, command an issue and stuff isn’t where it needed to be. We needed some innings out of him.”

Which could mean he will or will NOT ever get it back. Buckspeak. He doesn't know either. Can't blame Buck, he's not going to throw any player under the bus.

It sadly is what it is.

[eddie83]

Just now, scOtt said:

Which could mean he will or will NOT ever get it back. Buckspeak. He doesn't know either. Can't blame Buck, he's not going to throw any player under the bus.

It sadly is what it is.

He isn’t ignoring it.  I mean why would anyone think it will get better next time? 

[scOtt]

Just now, eddie83 said:

He isn’t ignoring it.  I mean why would anyone think it will get better next time? 

Kinda my point. Buck would never say that publicly. I've been defending Chris, HOPING for some rebound... but he can't even come within a foot of where he's aiming, velocity be damned. He might yank off a good curve or two but that's not near enough. Even to the most rainbows and lollipops guy like me he looks really DONE. Like Brian Matusz. Even worse than Matusz because Chris had some actual success. But done nonetheless.

[scOtt]

There is no joy in Mudville.

[El Gordo]

Scott Feldman, Jake Peavy, RA Dickey, and Matt Garza. Any of them worth kicking the tires? Dickey would be great if he still wants to pitch.

[Nevermore]

The only way that Tilly ever gets to do MLB pitching again is for him to abandon his fastball. His fastball has abandoned him. Face it, Tilly , your fastball is gone forever, it's never coming back.

However , it isn't necessarily the end of his MLB pitching career. He should volunteer to go to the minors, get some help from Ramon Martinez (yes, he's still a minor league pitching coach in the Orioles organization).  He's going to have learn how to pitch a curve or slider. He might have to begin in a minor league bullpen, pitching long relief while he learns how to pitch all over again, using guile rather than strength.  Eventually, he will start again; that depends on his progress. Or who knows,? He might end up with a new career as a long reliever. It depends upon him. Does he want to put in the tremendous effort it will take to do this? Make this comeback into the majors?

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[Nevermore]

By the way, where is Miguel Gonzalez or Tim Lincecum. Are either of them available ?

[24fps]

If Tillman doesn't recognize that going to the minors to work things out is in his best long-term interest then release him immediately and eat the cost.  I hope he sees reason before it comes to that.