So, how would you characterize the return on the Manny trade?

[Frobby]

Following on Greg Pappas’ thread where he asked people to predict the quality of the return we’d get for Manny, now that we know the outcome, how do you rate it?   I’m using the same scale Greg used so we can see how the answers line up.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

Just now, Frobby said:

Following on Greg Pappas’ thread where he asked people to predict the quality of the return we’d get for Manny, now that we know the outcome, how do you rate it?   I’m using the same scale Greg used so we can see how the answers line up.

From a quantity point, it is great. A Top 100 national prospect and potentially a few gap fillers.

But give it 5 years and see how these players are doing.

[Tx Oriole]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Following on Greg Pappas’ thread where he asked people to predict the quality of the return we’d get for Manny, now that we know the outcome, how do you rate it?   I’m using the same scale Greg used so we can see how the answers line up.

I voted solid. 

[25 Nuggets]

Right after the trade, we kind of have to treat it like a stock or like poker.  Based not on actual results but probability.

For 2.5 months and something like 2 wins, the Orioles got a solid return.  Chances are the combination of those five players will give the team more wins, albeit spread over a longer time.

[SilverRocket]

It's a bit of a letdown compared to some of the rumored packages, but I suspected those were too good to be true. This feels like a fair deal to me, good for both sides.

[beervendor]

Just now, 25 Nuggets said:

For 2.5 months and something like 2 wins, the Orioles got a real solid return.  Chances are the combination of those five players will give the team more wins, albeit spread over a longer time.

And, barring the literal end of the world, at a time when they might remotely matter.

[Chavez Ravine]

It seems like the highest you could ever rank a trade like this is solid.  How could you characterize a return that involved not seeing Manny Machado in an O's uniform as  "outstanding"? We can only hope that somewhere down the line one of these guys...or in some diffuse, less satisfying combination.....gives us as much joy as Manny did.

[LocoChris]

Is there much of a distinction between "decent" and "solid"? I'd give this trade 3 stars out of 5. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Solid, but it will take 5 years to really know.  

If Diaz ends up being a good player, that alone is probably enough to consider this a solid trade.  

[Moose Milligan]

Solid.  It's a rental for them.  As I've said countless times, teams weren't offering their top prospects so this seems to be a logical trade if getting a true top flight prospect wasn't in the cards for them.

I disagree it'll take 5 years to know.  It'll take 2.  By then we should know what we have in Diaz, that guy should be in Baltimore next year.  If the rest aren't progressing through our system, you'll know what the outcome of this trade was.

16 minutes ago, Cy Bundy said:

It’s less than what anyone was speculating. 

Less than who was speculating?  People on here?  You might be confused with what people were hoping for and how they ignore reality.

[Aristotelian]

I will go with solid. Best package available. Like Diaz a heck of a lot more than the Phillies pitcher. Other guys have upside too. I wanted Lux badly but the Dodgers weren't dumb enough to bid against themselves.

[Moose Milligan]

1 minute ago, Cy Bundy said:

That’s a distinct possibility. 

Its like losing the fiancé you loved a year after losing your dream job. She can do better, you guys had a great time but depression is setting in and there is nobody hiring. But, a hot girl on match.com is interested & tells you she has season tickets, box seats, for the Caps. Then you meet her, she’s hot and she’s bright, but it turns out she really only had tickets to nickelback. 

 

 

I can overlook nickelback.  

[El Gordo]

If they had gotten a good SP prospect or a good IF prospect I would have said solid.

[ExileAngelos]

33 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

If they had gotten a good SP prospect or a good IF prospect I would have said solid.

I would have said outstanding.  What they got was at minimum solid.

[hoosiers]

Strong return for me.  Agree with what RZ said - they did the best they could - picking up a top 50 prospect was very strong.  Sure, Diaz is a prospect, but he is a very, very good one with developing upside power, a good RF profile and a very high obp already in AA.  Diaz will be a key piece for our next playoff team.