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Buck and Dan's home run strategy did not help the O's

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When ownership forces you to do your Free Agent shopping in March with monopoly money what exactly is the GM and Manager supposed to do? 

By that point you are basically having to select from a pool of undesirables -- the players who can't get on base.  With four homer happy ballparks in the AL-East going with the 1-dimensional slugger probably was our best hope for scoring any runs.

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2 minutes ago, notyourbuddy said:

When ownership forces you to do your Free Agent shopping in March with monopoly money what exactly is the GM and Manager supposed to do? 

By that point you are basically having to select from a pool of undesirables -- the players who can't get on base.  With four homer happy ballparks in the AL-East going with the 1-dimensional slugger probably was our best hope for scoring any runs.

I don't think they had monopoly money.

I don't think they spent what they had particularly wisely.

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2 hours ago, wildbillhiccup said:

How in the world did Bud Norris keep his era under 4.00 in the AL East? It's a magic trick that stands toe to to with anything David Copperfield has done. 

The best thing for Bud Norris was  being demoted to the bullpen and then being released a bit later. After spending a few years in various teams' bullpens  he became the St Louis Cardinals closer.

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2 minutes ago, Nevermore said:

The best thing for Bud Norris was  being demoted to the bullpen and then being released a bit later. After spending a few years in various teams' bullpens  he became the St Louis Cardinals closer.

...and clubhouse cancer if you buy into the Matheny-related reports. 

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15 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't think they had monopoly money.

I don't think they spent what they had particularly wisely.

They most certainly did not. Again, you don't sign someone just for the sake of signing him. Especially someone as terrible as Cashner. The only thing worse would have been inking Vargas to a multi-year deal. They should have done their homework and directed that money at the Tyson Ross types that were available. Mikolas would have been a great signing too, in hindsight. The Cardinals clearly did their homework on him. 

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Part of a product of having guys with strike zone judgement who don't bite on low and outside sliders.

Stanton struck out 211 times, Judge 152 after missing a lot of time and 208 last year, but whatevs.

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4 minutes ago, Morgan423 said:

Being mid-range in the league in runs scored works just fine when you have a decent starting rotation and an elite bullpen to keep opposing runs off the board.

Got a lot uglier once we stopped having those things.

Don't forget declining defense and guys playing out of position.

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3 hours ago, wildcard said:

Many times over their tenure with the O's Dan and Buck expressed the strategy that building their offense around home runs was the right way to win with a home park of Camden Yards.  Looking back that startegy  seems to not have worked for them the way they planned.

2012,   2nd in homers in the AL but  9th in runs

2013,  1st in homers, 4th in runs

2014,  1st in homers, 6th in runs

2015, 3rd in homers, 7th in runs

2016,  1st in homers, 7th in runs

2017,  5th in homers,  8th in runs

2018, 9th in homers,  15th in runs

There are 5 playoff teams in the AL every year.  So the O's should plan to be at least 5th or better in runs.   That happened once  in the 7 years that Buck and Dan were together with the O's.   Maybe going forward the offensive strategy should be different.

But that's the way of the AL. Home runs.

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