The Victor Victor Mesa/Sandy Gaston thread

[Moose Milligan]

I think a lot of you are kidding yourselves.

 

[Can_of_corn]

1 hour ago, Orioles1954 said:

I'm not talking on the national level. I would think the Mesas would be a lot more marketable in Miami than Baltimore. Last time I saw an Oriole pitching a local product was Joey Rickard with Royal Farms chicken!

I think it would take quite a few of those local deals to make up the difference in signing bonus.

 

[Luke-OH]

5 hours ago, POR said:

The amount of money is artificially low.  If there was not the new MLB international signing rules that went into effect a couple of years ago, Mesa would likely be looking at $50 million (see Puig, Tomas, Olivera etc).  The $2.5 million in international bonus money the Orioles received in the Gausman trade was a big piece of the trade. Virtually everyone else is already signed and if the Orioles don't spend it, it does not carry over to next year.  Therefore, it is difficult to believe that Mesa is not worth virtually all the Orioles can offer even if they are not impressed.

The Orioles trading away $750k in international bonus money for Jack Zoellner never made any sense.  I refuse to believe that they legitimately consider a player who will be 24 last month and put up mediocre numbers in the GCL any type of prospect at all.

If Mesa turns out to have a decent career, the difference between what the Orioles and Marlins can offer is very small in the scheme of his career earnings.

 

 

 

 

I absolutely agree that the money is artificially low, that’d really have to think poorly of VVM to not think he was easily worth every penny of the O’s slot money. I was just trying to cover all potential outcomes. 

[theocean]

5 hours ago, weams said:

Jeter loves Buck. Loves him.

Buck likes Jeter, too.

[higgybaby]

So I guess the murmurs that theses deals are already done and the showcase is just a formality are just garbage. 

[Whammer]

12 minutes ago, higgybaby said:

So I guess the murmurs that theses deals are already done and the showcase is just a formality are just garbage. 

Roch tweeted that the O's contingent was meeting with all 3 today.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Whammer said:

Roch tweeted that the O's contingent was meeting with all 3 today.

I'm sure they will be very sad to hear that Miami signed them all days ago.

[Tx Oriole]

58 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm sure they will be very sad to hear that Miami signed them all days ago.

Brady and gang screwed the pooch. 

[Flacco Machado]

I'm in the camp of thinking all 3 are going to Miami.

I really hope I'm wrong.

God, I hope I'm wrong.

[Yardball85]

3 minutes ago, Flacco Machado said:

I'm in the camp of thinking all 3 are going to Miami.

I really hope I'm wrong.

God, I hope I'm wrong.

I don't see how that happens unless they either 1) accept significantly less money or 2) the Orioles stupidly don't offer a significant amount more (or more in general) than Miami.

[doctorbj]

Let me ask an ‘out of the box’  question. Could the Orioles offer an increased minor league salary as a sweetener, or is there an established maximum for minor leaguers?

[Legend_Of_Joey]

35 minutes ago, doctorbj said:

Let me ask an ‘out of the box’  question. Could the Orioles offer an increased minor league salary as a sweetener, or is there an established maximum for minor leaguers?

Could they also offer a 40 man spot?

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Could they also offer a 40 man spot?

I don't think they can offer a ML contract.

I know they took that option away from Draftees.

[VaBird1]

3 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Could they also offer a 40 man spot?

The 40 man spot has a minimum salary, correct?  That would accomplish both things.

[VaBird1]

6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't think they can offer a ML contract.

I know they took that option away from Draftees.

That’s a good question.