Fangraphs’ team positional rankings

[Frobby]

Fangraphs has started a daily post on positional rankings at the different positions.    I guess nobody is surprised that the Orioles were ranked 30th at 1B yesterday, with Davis occupying the position.    But I was somewhat surprised to see the O’s also ranked 30th at 2B today.    They’re projecting us at a collective 1.0 fWAR at 2B, led by Villar at 0.9.    

I wonder if we can go 9 for 9?   Hard to believe the other positions will be much better than 2B.

I’ll update the OP as they go along:

1B — 30th https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-first-base/

2B — 30th https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-second-base/

3B — 29th  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-third-base/

SS —30th  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-shortstop/

C — 30th https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-catcher/

LF - 26th https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-left-field/

CF - 23rd  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-center-field/

RF - 27th  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-right-field/

DH - 14th/15  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-designated-hitter/

Starting pitchers - 30th  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-starting-rotation-no-16-30/

Bullpen - 20th  https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2019-positional-power-rankings-bullpen-no-16-30/

 

[Can_of_corn]

That's beautiful.

Maybe they sneak in a 29th at Catcher?

[RVAOsFan]

Wow.  If we can't do better than last at 2nd, I don't see where we can finish better.  I was thinking Villar was the best bet to be our All Star rep.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, RVAOsFan said:

Wow.  If we can't do better than last at 2nd, I don't see where we can finish better.  I was thinking Villar was the best bet to be our All Star rep.

Best bet is a bullpen arm.

Remember every team gets an all star, even if it's a pity selection.

[RVAOsFan]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Best bet is a bullpen arm.

Remember every team gets an all star, even if it's a pity selection.

Right, maybe Givens will have a solid first half.  Even if it is a pitty selection you hate to see undeserving players making it in due to a rule like that.  Remember a couple years ago when we were complaining about Baltimore not hosting an All Star game? Could you imagine if Camden Yards was the home of the 2019 MLB All Star Game? YIKES

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, RVAOsFan said:

Right, maybe Givens will have a solid first half.  Even if it is a pitty selection you hate to see undeserving players making it in due to a rule like that.  Remember a couple years ago when we were complaining about Baltimore not hosting an All Star game? Could you imagine if Camden Yards was the home of the 2019 MLB All Star Game? YIKES

Flat Breezy was a pity selection and he was the hero of his game.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Best bet is a bullpen arm.

Remember every team gets an all star, even if it's a pity selection.

Ty Wigginton in 2010.

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Ty Wigginton in 2010.

Sure.

But it is generally easier to hide an undeserving player in the bullpen and at least one guy for every team is going to have a good first half.

[DrungoHazewood]

Something doesn't make sense with this.  In the Fangraphs writeup they say Villar is an average Major League player.  Are they really telling us that 29 major league teams are above-average (compared to all other players at all positions) at second base?  That seems unlikely, but that's kind of what their projections say.   Their Villar numbers have him regressing on the basis of his poor 2017.

In 2018 there were 41 players who played at least 50 games at second base.  19 of them were above average, Brock Holt was average.  The other 21 were below average.  Villar was 17th of the 41.  

What this also points out is that there's little or no substantive difference between the bottom 15 or 18 teams on the list at 2B.  They're all something like average.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Something doesn't make sense with this.  In the Fangraphs writeup they say Villar is an average Major League player.  Are they really telling us that 29 major league teams are above-average (compared to all other players at all positions) at second base?  That seems unlikely, but that's kind of what their projections say.   Their Villar numbers have him regressing on the basis of his poor 2017.

In 2018 there were 41 players who played at least 50 games at second base.  19 of them were above average, Brock Holt was average.  The other 21 were below average.  Villar was 17th of the 41.  

What this also points out is that there's little or no substantive difference between the bottom 15 or 18 teams on the list at 2B.  They're all something like average.

How exciting a narrative is it to have the O's rank last at every position?

[mdbdotcom]

If we finish 30th for every position, do we get a prize?

[esmd]

2 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Something doesn't make sense with this.  In the Fangraphs writeup they say Villar is an average Major League player.  Are they really telling us that 29 major league teams are above-average (compared to all other players at all positions) at second base?  That seems unlikely, but that's kind of what their projections say.   Their Villar numbers have him regressing on the basis of his poor 2017.

In 2018 there were 41 players who played at least 50 games at second base.  19 of them were above average, Brock Holt was average.  The other 21 were below average.  Villar was 17th of the 41.  

What this also points out is that there's little or no substantive difference between the bottom 15 or 18 teams on the list at 2B.  They're all something like average.

Agreed.  Villar certainly isn't a superstar, but I guess I figured he'd be someone in the middle of the pack of MLB 2nd baseman.  Maybe in the upper end of the lower half.  I dunno, I guess we'll see.

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

If we finish 30th for every position, do we get a prize?

#1 draft pick.

[Just Regular]

2 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Something doesn't make sense with this.  In the Fangraphs writeup they say Villar is an average Major League player.  Are they really telling us that 29 major league teams are above-average (compared to all other players at all positions) at second base?  That seems unlikely, but that's kind of what their projections say.   Their Villar numbers have him regressing on the basis of his poor 2017.

In 2018 there were 41 players who played at least 50 games at second base.  19 of them were above average, Brock Holt was average.  The other 21 were below average.  Villar was 17th of the 41.  

What this also points out is that there's little or no substantive difference between the bottom 15 or 18 teams on the list at 2B.  They're all something like average.

They only have Villar for 371 PA's and 0.9 fWAR at 2B so he's only about half the 30th place projection with a bunch of replacement or sub-replacement backups, and prorates to about 1.5 in 650 PA's somewhere.  I'm guessing he'll get about 200 PA's of our coming 30th place SS projection.

[LookinUp]

If Mancini gets LF in their rankings, I'm assuming someone has to be worse.