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6 hours ago, Frobby said:

I’m seeing this as a transitional year.   There will be a lot of prospects on the major league team by the end of the year.   Not too worried about the version we’re seeing right now.

I’m worried we’re going to see us sell off anyone making over the league minimum if we can. Mancini, Means, Scott, and Santander. Then try to unload M.Harvey, Armstrong, Fry, Severino, Franco, and Galvis. We’ll enter 2022 with only Davis on the roster. 
 

It looks like 2023 the goal will be complete. We’ll have a team with maybe 1-2 players in early arbitration and Davis’ salary will be off the books. 

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Honestly I’m not jumping to any conclusions after 9 games.    I expected this to be a 61-65 win team and nothing I’ve seen so far has changed my mind.   But I do think the team will hit better than it has so far this season.   Wish I could say the same about the pitching, but I think the pitching will be inconsistent at best.  

Probably my biggest disappointments so far have been Mountcastle’s slow start and Kremer’s first game.   Was disappointed with Akin this spring but my guess is he or Lowther will be up sometime in late April/early May.   
 

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1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I’m worried we’re going to see us sell off anyone making over the league minimum if we can. Mancini, Means, Scott, and Santander. Then try to unload M.Harvey, Armstrong, Fry, Severino, Franco, and Galvis. We’ll enter 2022 with only Davis on the roster. 
 

It looks like 2023 the goal will be complete. We’ll have a team with maybe 1-2 players in early arbitration and Davis’ salary will be off the books. 

Why are you worried that they could sell off pieces that aren’t part of the long term plan?

I think they hold onto Scott unless he is that good and the offers are just to much to pass on.  But I would think he is in the long term plans.

Means is the real questionable one.

This team isn’t likely making the playoffs in 2022 but they absolutely should be a 500ish team, give or take and if things go well, they could be a WC contender.

Again, the future of this  team is all about one thing...how good are the young guys we currently have?  This organization isn’t contending for at least another 3-5 years if the answer to that question is “not very good”.  If they are good and start to be good soon, this team could ascend very quickly.

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22 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Why are you worried that they could sell off pieces that aren’t part of the long term plan?

I think they hold onto Scott unless he is that good and the offers are just to much to pass on.  But I would think he is in the long term plans.

Means is the real questionable one.

This team isn’t likely making the playoffs in 2022 but they absolutely should be a 500ish team, give or take and if things go well, they could be a WC contender.

Again, the future of this  team is all about one thing...how good are the young guys we currently have?  This organization isn’t contending for at least another 3-5 years if the answer to that question is “not very good”.  If they are good and start to be good soon, this team could ascend very quickly.

I don't see 500 as being possible in 2022 unless Elias really ramps up the rate of promotion.

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4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't see 500 as being possible in 2022 unless Elias really ramps up the rate of promotion.

It’s that but it’s also spending money and bringing in some outside help.

500 (or something close to it) is pretty achievable next year if the young guys are good.  You have some here now, some here soon and some that should be here later this year and into early next year.

Its just a matter of how quickly they develop, how healthy there are/stay and if they are just flat out good enough or not.

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4 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

It’s that but it’s also spending money and bringing in some outside help.

500 (or something close to it) is pretty achievable next year if the young guys are good.  You have some here now, some here soon and some that should be here later this year and into early next year.

Its just a matter of how quickly they develop, how healthy there are/stay and if they are just flat out good enough or not.

I don't see them adding significant payroll in 2022.

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

Honestly I’m not jumping to any conclusions after 9 games.    I expected this to be a 61-65 win team and nothing I’ve seen so far has changed my mind.   But I do think the team will hit better than it has so far this season.   Wish I could say the same about the pitching, but I think the pitching will be inconsistent at best.  

Probably my biggest disappointments so far have been Mountcastle’s slow start and Kremer’s first game.   Was disappointed with Akin this spring but my guess is he or Lowther will be up sometime in late April/early May.   
 

Mountcastle’s K rate is awful. With him being a part of the future clearly want him to get going. 17K’s in 38 at bats. Fastballs top of zone getting by him. 
 

Looking forward to see how Kremer throws tonight. 

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22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't see 500 as being possible in 2022 unless Elias really ramps up the rate of promotion.

Other than Adley and Diaz who are you referring to? I know the trio of arms at AAA will get a shot at some point. 

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

For 2022?

Grayson, Hall, Gunnar and Milk Carton Boy.

I doubt we see the first 3. Only way would be if team is actually competitive and they needed an arm. I can’t wait till the MiL season starts. 
 

Genuinely worried about Kjerstad. I know the Astros got away with whiffing on a top pick but I would rather not roll the dice on that. 

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2 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I doubt we see the first 3. Only way would be if team is actually competitive and they needed an arm. I can’t wait till the MiL season starts. 
 

Genuinely worried about Kjerstad. I know the Astros got away with whiffing on a top pick but I would rather not roll the dice on that. 

I agree, which is why I don't think .500 is likely in 2022.

At this point I'm just hoping the official line isn't "We are still accumulating talent and winning isn't a priority this season."

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