Hyde postgame presser today

[eddie83]

He was very blunt today.

-Its hard, very challenging. Frustrating, embarrassing at times, finding out about our guys. Guys we wanted to get a look at. Want to put competitive product on field. 
 

-said multiple times offense is basically overmatched vs good pitching. 
 

-Knew was going to be a lot of work and rebuilding process. Frustrated wants to give Baltimore fans something to look forward to. Something to hang your hat on.  Mentioned Means, Mancini and Santander.  Thought had momentum off last year. Thought second month last year were still competitive but didn’t have the bullets to compete with those type of teams. This year decent start, lost winnable games.  We look overmatched at times. Organization needs to get better up here. 
 

- Hard to lose. It stacks up. From a coaching staff standpoint we are honest. Need to pat guys on back, kick guys in the butt. That’s our job and  now it’s their job to perform. 

[Can_of_corn]

Can you really say we have seen any building at the ML level under Hyde and Elias?  More than we would have under anyone else?  Any team is going to have a good story or two.

As the Manager of the ML team he can't rest his hat on the achievements of the AA team.

[eddie83]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Can you really say we have seen any building at the ML level under Hyde and Elias?  More than we would have under anyone else?  Any team is going to have a good story or two.

As the Manager of the ML team he can't rest his hat on the achievements of the AA team.

This is on Elias. 
 

He was honest today. Very transparent. 
 

Means has been better. Who gets the credit?  Mullins. Santander. 

[Sports Guy]

Too many injuries.  Offense is thin.  Needed to add at least another bat (or keep Nunez).  

[eddie83]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Too many injuries.  Offense is thin.  Needed to add at least another bat (or keep Nunez).  

Ryan needs to have better at bats. You see the skill but then the approach. Also missing too many mistakes. 
 

C, 2nd and 3rd are huge holes.

[Gurgi]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Ryan needs to have better at bats. You see the skill but then the approach. Also missing too many mistakes. 
 

C, 2nd and 3rd are huge holes.

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SS is weak on the defensive side.  Galvis is kind of stone handed.  He is missing a lot of easy plays.  

 

[eddie83]

2 minutes ago, Gurgi said:

 

We all knew the INF and pitching would be bad. Just a matter of how bad. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the worst it’s about a 9 and that may be generous. 

[Gurgi]

4 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

We all knew the INF and pitching would be bad. Just a matter of how bad. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the worst it’s about a 9 and that may be generous. 

Yeah its bad.  Galvis and Franco are hard to watch.  We dont turn much double plays.  We make too many errors and force the weak pitching to take more lumps.  Means gave up a homerun today after a Galvis misplay.....we cant have this .   

[Tony-OH]

The lack of development of the players we hoped would be the beginning of the resurgence has really been the major downer.

I feel bad for Hyde because he does seem to be a good baseball man, but it's hard to know how much say he has in roles of his players and pitchers.

All we know is this team is a disaster and although we all signed up for a rebuild, it's been pretty ugly and we're now in the 3rd season of Elias tenure and the major league team is the worse in baseball still. Not increasingly getting better, but sadly uncompetitive.

Last year, although a shortened season, we saw some promise in Means, Mountcastle, Scott, Santander and Hays for the future. Hays has been hurt twice, and outside of Means, the others have all under performed with Santander being hurt as well.

Regardless of whether the organization turns into a perennial winner or not, they will always have the stain of being an embarrassment to baseball for at least 4 season straight. Grant it one of those seasons was not under Elias' tenure, but the fact he decided to go into this season with such a poor squad shows he really doesn't care about putting even a decent product on the field while he rebuilds from the inside. 

At some point he's going to have to actually care about the major league product and soon because the fan base has withered to the point that fans just don't care or discuss the Orioles outside of the die-hards. And it's hard to be a die-hard when your team has become irrelevant.

 

[Can_of_corn]

42 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Too many injuries.  Offense is thin.  Needed to add at least another bat (or keep Nunez).  

Yea...injuries...

[Sports Guy]

17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yea...injuries...

This really doesn’t mean anything.  
 

Projections on guys like Santander, Hays, Diaz (who is probably up at some point now), Stewart, et al arent going to show much because of the little or no experience they have, which effects these types of things.  

Things have played out exactly as I said in the offseason.  It’s why I wanted to keep Nunez.  (The idea that he hasn’t done much is irrelevant)  

Too many injury prone guys in these areas.

 

[JimGinSP]

Sorry, I’m not a MASN subscriber, is Hyde starting to get the deer in the headlights look Perlozzo and Trembley ended up having during the pressers?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

This really doesn’t mean anything.  
 

Projections on guys like Hays, Diaz (who is probably up at some point now), Stewart, et al arent going to show much because of the little or no experience they have, which effects these types of things.  

Of course you don't think something that contradicts a point you were making means anything. 

All teams have to deal with injuries and the Orioles haven't been particularly hard hit.

It's just another excuse.

Mets are in first place.  Are you going to suggest the O's have been harder hit with injuries?

[survivedc]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Of course you don't think something that contradicts a point you were making means anything. 

All teams have to deal with injuries and the Orioles haven't been particularly hard hit.

It's just another excuse.

Mets are in first place.  Are you going to suggest the O's have been harder hit with injuries?

It’s legitimate to say that some of the expectations have been derailed by injuries to Hays, Santander Stewart and Diaz to a lesser degree. 
Nobody was expecting to win, but there was a thought that the offense could be good with some of that group being involved. With none of them on the field together it’s hard to have anything on ML team to be excited about.

[Sports Guy]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Of course you don't think something that contradicts a point you were making means anything. 

All teams have to deal with injuries and the Orioles haven't been particularly hard hit.

It's just another excuse.

Mets are in first place.  Are you going to suggest the O's have been harder hit with injuries?

What an ignorant response.  Of course all teams deal with injuries but many teams have something called a margin for error.  The Os have nothing like that.  

The Orioles were a team whose offense, entering the year, was built around their OF and CI positions.

The OF has been crushed with injuries outside of Mullins.  

Mancini has done great (but even he is out right now) and Franco and Mountcastle have been terrible.

When you only have a few guys that can help carry the offense and some of them are never playing and the key back ups and/or potential long term replacements are also never healthy, it’s going to hurt your rather thin and limited offense.