Kyle Gibson 2023

[DirtyBird]

16 minutes ago, banks703 said:

That may have been reported but I don’t believe that it was ever confirmed that the O’s seriously pursued Cease (or that they asked for Holliday in return).

Are trades that don't happen ever confirmed?

[MCO'sFan]

22 minutes ago, banks703 said:

That may have been reported but I don’t believe that it was ever confirmed that the O’s seriously pursued Cease (or that they asked for Holliday in return).

The White Sox are a dumpster fire so it wouldn’t surprise me though. Cease is their best asset. It would do more for their organization to trade him for multiple high level prospects (and possibly get major league level talent back) than to ask for one guy back in a trade for Cease. That’s why I think the O’s match up with them for a potential off-season move. They didn’t have to move Cease in-season so they could ask for the world but now that they have new leadership in Chris Getz, I expect them to make more sound moves. 

Cease was part of the reason they were a dumpster fire. I don't want to give up any of the top 100 guys for him.

[banks703]

35 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

Are trades that don't happen ever confirmed?

Sure. All the time. 

[RZNJ]

8 minutes ago, banks703 said:

Sure. All the time. 

BS.  There are many rumors that never become trades.  Unless a trade falls through because of someone invoking a no trade clause there are very non trades where the rumors are confirmed by either team.

[banks703]

20 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

BS.  There are many rumors that never become trades.  Unless a trade falls through because of someone invoking a no trade clause there are very non trades where the rumors are confirmed by either team.

K.. so what is BS about what I wrote then? lol 

[RZNJ]

Just now, banks703 said:

K.. so what is BS about what I wrote then? lol 

The other poster asked if trades not made are confirmed.  You said “all of the time” suggesting it happens a lot or it’s a common occurrence.

[Aristotelian]

In addition to Cease, I'd take a look at Mitch Keller of the Pirates, and any of Meyer, Trevor Rogers, and Edward Cabrera of the Marlins.

[banks703]

7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

The other poster asked if trades not made are confirmed.  You said “all of the time” suggesting it happens a lot or it’s a common occurrence.

LOL ok 

 

 

[DirtyBird]

1 hour ago, banks703 said:

Sure. All the time. 

Name 1 of our confirmed trade offers in the past 10 years that did not happen.

[Just Regular]

Fangraphs launched its 2024 Free Agent Tracker this morning, and it shows Kyle Gibson in a healthy 8th place in 2023 fWAR among the class.

Shohei 6.6, S. Gray 5.2, J. Montgomery 4.3, Snell 3.9, Nola 3.7, Candelario 3.3, Chapman 3.3, Gibson 2.5.

If you are set at 3B and don't need Candelario-Chapman, Bats the next best by 2023 fWAR is Kevin Kiermaier.     No middle infielders show up until Elvis Andrus 20-30 players down, so conditions may be decent for Elias to leverage a surplus and make one (or both) of Norby and Ortiz a Hernaiz trade follow up this winter.

 

[DrungoHazewood]

If Gibson were to allow 18 earned runs and zero unearned runs over the rest of the season he would eclipse the all time record for runs allowed with zero unearned runs, which is currently 118, held by Joel Pineiro in 2005.

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, Just Regular said:

Fangraphs launched its 2024 Free Agent Tracker this morning, and it shows Kyle Gibson in a healthy 8th place in 2023 fWAR among the class.

Shohei 6.6, S. Gray 5.2, J. Montgomery 4.3, Snell 3.9, Nola 3.7, Candelario 3.3, Chapman 3.3, Gibson 2.5.

If you are set at 3B and don't need Candelario-Chapman, Bats the next best by 2023 fWAR is Kevin Kiermaier.     No middle infielders show up until Elvis Andrus 20-30 players down, so conditions may be decent for Elias to leverage a surplus and make one (or both) of Norby and Ortiz a Hernaiz trade follow up this winter.

 

There is a FA that I think the O's will bring back next season and it's not Gibson.  Its Aaron Hicks.

[Jim'sKid26]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

There is a FA that I think the O's will bring back next season and it's not Gibson.  Its Aaron Hicks.

Why?

[Roy Firestone]

3 hours ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

Why?

Yeah. Why? We have better, both on the roster now...and coming up...

[jdwilde1]

10 hours ago, wildcard said:

There is a FA that I think the O's will bring back next season and it's not Gibson.  Its Aaron Hicks.

Is Hicks a FA?  I thought his deal was through 2025, with the O’s only being responsible for league minimum.