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Feds also got a urine sample that looks like it'll cause some issues for Mr. Bonds.

What an idiot Bonds is. Did he think he'd actually get away with it? Did he think that he could lie under oath about "not knowingly" using HGH?

"Yeah, that's what I'm telling you guys. I just rubbed this topical ointment on myself and...well, I got muscles all of a sudden that I'd never had before and started launching baseballs better and easier than I ever. But no, I had no idea what was in that stuff Victor Conte gave me."

I'd have been much more forgiving had he confessed when asked the first time and not denied it this whole time.

Here's hoping he gets busted.

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God, how old is this steroid thing getting? He used steroids! Wow, what a revelation. So did everyone else. Bonds was just the best player who ever did it, good god i wish this story would go away. He won't see one second of jail time.

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God, how old is this steroid thing getting? He used steroids! Wow, what a revelation. So did everyone else. Bonds was just the best player who ever did it, good god i wish this story would go away. He won't see one second of jail time.

Ahhhh, beaner....alas we meet again in another Bonds thread :)

I partially agree with the steroid thing getting old...and I don't care about them as much as I used to. Everyone likes to overlook that the pitchers that Bonds and McGwire were hitting bombs off of were juicing too.

But this is past that, this is someone who's had the gonads to lie under oath and trying to pull one over on the Federal frickin government dude. He thinks that he's THAT BIG that he could get away with it.

Occasionally, some athletes become bigger than their sport. There are a rare, rare few...Babe Ruth immediately comes to mind, he's still a national icon. Jackie Robinson. Most recently, Michael Phelps comes to mind. These guys transcended their sports and became....icons.

Bonds, IMO, could have been one of those guys. I think had he been a nicer guy from the start it would have gone a long way.

But no, he's a jerk....and I don't hold that against him...not everyone we meet on a day to day basis is a peach to deal with.

He juiced....alright. Like I said, I don't care as much as I used to. I don't really like it, but I'm not about to start protesting to get asterisks placed next to all his records.

He lied about it and was a jerk to top it off. This is where I'm having a problem with him. No one likes a liar, no one likes a jerk. Certainly no one likes a combination of the two.

He lied about it under oath....and if thats the case, now you're just asking for it.

I guess the comparison I'm trying to draw is that...those aforementioned guys, the guys that are icons...had some sort of responsibility. Ruth, despite his faults, was nice to everyone he met, especially kids. Robinson carried the burden of an entire race on his back. Phelps has been a class act and a great international ambassador.

But Bonds never had such responsibilities and due to his surly demeanor, no one bestowed those responsibilities upon him. Barry Bonds has never even been identified as the ambassador of his sport, like Ripken.

And thats his prerogative. If he didn't want to be that guy, fine.

But to act as if someone all of a sudden anointed him that role, that he can sit on trial and just lie about using steriods and really think that he's fooling everyone and that people are going to believe him...is flat out stupid and ignorant. It's borderline insulting.

There are people out there who are richer, smarter with better connections who have tried to pull a fast one on the federal government and haven't been able to do it. And Barry Bonds thinks he can just swagger into a courtroom and say he didn't knowingly take PEDs because he's BARRY BONDS?

That's why I hope he fries, dude.

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God, how old is this steroid thing getting? He used steroids! Wow, what a revelation. So did everyone else. Bonds was just the best player who ever did it, good god i wish this story would go away. He won't see one second of jail time.

Indeed....

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God, how old is this steroid thing getting? He used steroids! Wow, what a revelation. So did everyone else. Bonds was just the best player who ever did it, good god i wish this story would go away. He won't see one second of jail time.

Let's see...

Grand Jury Testimony = Lying

Lying = Trial

What is different with this tread... oh it's about Bond's false testimony that he gave to a Federal Grand Jury that is different.

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Ahhhh, beaner....alas we meet again in another Bonds thread :)

I partially agree with the steroid thing getting old...and I don't care about them as much as I used to. Everyone likes to overlook that the pitchers that Bonds and McGwire were hitting bombs off of were juicing too.

But this is past that, this is someone who's had the gonads to lie under oath and trying to pull one over on the Federal frickin government dude. He thinks that he's THAT BIG that he could get away with it.

Occasionally, some athletes become bigger than their sport. There are a rare, rare few...Babe Ruth immediately comes to mind, he's still a national icon. Jackie Robinson. Most recently, Michael Phelps comes to mind. These guys transcended their sports and became....icons.

Bonds, IMO, could have been one of those guys. I think had he been a nicer guy from the start it would have gone a long way.

But no, he's a jerk....and I don't hold that against him...not everyone we meet on a day to day basis is a peach to deal with.

He juiced....alright. Like I said, I don't care as much as I used to. I don't really like it, but I'm not about to start protesting to get asterisks placed next to all his records.

He lied about it and was a jerk to top it off. This is where I'm having a problem with him. No one likes a liar, no one likes a jerk. Certainly no one likes a combination of the two.

He lied about it under oath....and if thats the case, now you're just asking for it.

I guess the comparison I'm trying to draw is that...those aforementioned guys, the guys that are icons...had some sort of responsibility. Ruth, despite his faults, was nice to everyone he met, especially kids. Robinson carried the burden of an entire race on his back. Phelps has been a class act and a great international ambassador.

But Bonds never had such responsibilities and due to his surly demeanor, no one bestowed those responsibilities upon him. Barry Bonds has never even been identified as the ambassador of his sport, like Ripken.

And thats his prerogative. If he didn't want to be that guy, fine.

But to act as if someone all of a sudden anointed him that role, that he can sit on trial and just lie about using steriods and really think that he's fooling everyone and that people are going to believe him...is flat out stupid and ignorant. It's borderline insulting.

There are people out there who are richer, smarter with better connections who have tried to pull a fast one on the federal government and haven't been able to do it. And Barry Bonds thinks he can just swagger into a courtroom and say he didn't knowingly take PEDs because he's BARRY BONDS?

That's why I hope he fries, dude.

That's a great response, honestly. I don't want to get into the whole "he's not the only one debate" because you and I have been through that too many times over the years. We know how each other feels, and since there is mutual respect for the other, there's no need for me to re hash the "Yea, but Ryan Franklin did it too" argument. I won't judge Bonds any more than I judge a great guy like Brian Roberts simply because Barry's a jerk and Brian's a good guy. The league, the feds, the fans..etc decided to make an example out of Bonds, and it's because he was such a great player. If they wanted to dig deeper on every guy, I'm certain that plenty more than Bonds lied numerous times about use of steroids.

I just want the whole "story" to go away, I just don't think it's a story anymore. And I'll stand by my statement, "He won't see one second of jail time".

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There are people out there who are richer, smarter with better connections who have tried to pull a fast one on the federal government and haven't been able to do it. And Barry Bonds thinks he can just swagger into a courtroom and say he didn't knowingly take PEDs because he's BARRY BONDS?

That's why I hope he fries, dude.

Well, while I agree with your basic point, let's be real about what happens with rich guys. Somebody can steal $billions and gets either probation or small-time at a country-club prison, while a homeless guy gets 10 or 15 years in a real prison for stealing $100. So, it's not like justice is blind.

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Feds also got a urine sample that looks like it'll cause some issues for Mr. Bonds.

What an idiot Bonds is. Did he think he'd actually get away with it? Did he think that he could lie under oath about "not knowingly" using HGH?

"Yeah, that's what I'm telling you guys. I just rubbed this topical ointment on myself and...well, I got muscles all of a sudden that I'd never had before and started launching baseballs better and easier than I ever. But no, I had no idea what was in that stuff Victor Conte gave me."

I'd have been much more forgiving had he confessed when asked the first time and not denied it this whole time.

Here's hoping he gets busted.

Bonds has already been "busted". The issue is whether he gets convicted or whether his high-priced legal "dream team" can succeed in getting him acquitted. To a large degree, the result probably depends upon the court venue, which will greatly affect the composition of the jury. OJ probably would never have been acquitted if the prosecutors hadn't allowed the transfer of the case from the district where the crimes were committed to the courthouse in downtown LA.

What's new in these news accounts, aside from the subpoena to Gallegos and the search of the home of Mark Anderson's mother-in-law? We've known for a year or longer that the feds obtained the results of urinalysis tests that BALCO had Bonds take to see if the steroids he was taking were detectable, and that at least one of those tests was positive.

The story gives us no information about what Gallegos will say in his testimony or what the feds found in their house search. It's reasonable to assume the feds had information that Anderson had hidden at his mother-in-law's home, but nowhere is that stated.

As a baseball fan, I'm interested in the Bonds case and how it progresses, but not in breathless updates about each time one of the principles in the case goes to the bathroom.

I can speculate on how much Mark Anderson has been paid or will be paid to maintain his refusal to testify. Susan McDougall spent two years in jail on contempt for refusing to testify; so far, by my tabulation, Anderson has only spent 90 days in jail for refusing to testify against Bonds.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3869788

What an idiot Bonds is. Did he think he'd actually get away with it? Did he think that he could lie under oath about "not knowingly" using HGH?

"Yeah, that's what I'm telling you guys. I just rubbed this topical ointment on myself and...well, I got muscles all of a sudden that I'd never had before and started launching baseballs better and easier than I ever. But no, I had no idea what was in that stuff Victor Conte gave me."

Gary Sheffield got away with it. The above quote covers Sheffield's testimony except you replace Victor Conte with Barry Bonds. Do you really think that Sheff didn't know what he was taking?

It amazes me that there is such vitrol thrown at Bonds, and to a lesser degree Clemens, and yet the vast majority of folks named in the Mitchell report are given a free pass by the press and the fan base.

I also find it a huge waste of taxpayer money to spend this amount of capital to attempt to convict a person of perjury.

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I'I'm not all that interested in following the story as it trasnspires. That said, I do hope the case moves forward as Bonds (nor anyone else who engages in the type of coverup he's been involved with) is not worthy of a free pass.

Shouldn't even be a crime(the drugs) as far as I'm concerned.

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Shouldn't even be a crime(the drugs) as far as I'm concerned.

The federal investigation targeted the drug traffickers, not the users like Bonds and Marion Jones. Jones plead guilty to lying to federal investigators and was sentenced to serve 6 months in jail. She entered prison on March 7, 2008 and was released on September 5th. Barry Bonds should serve no less if he's convicted of perjury.

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