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On the record Poll: Hays or McKenna (Update: McKenna DFA'd (Claimed by Giants), Hays activated)


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On the record Poll: Hays or McKenna (Update: McKenna DFA'd (Claimed by Giants), Hays activated)  

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  1. 1. Hays or McKenna on the team this year?


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  • Poll closed on 05/18/24 at 20:09

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6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Every team has guys like him. It’s a false narrative to pretend they don’t.

McKenna is pretty much the definition of a replacement level player.  It’s not like we’ve given him tons of playing time.  I agree that every team has guys like this.  

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2 minutes ago, MCO'sFan said:

No one said anything close to this. It's also a false narrative to say that they we (fans) should just accept it without discussing our opinions on a message board. 

You absolutely said it. You said “I don’t think he’s the type of 5th OFer that should be on a WS Contender”

Yet every team has guys like that.  So, your roster expectations are unrealistic and not founded on reality.

 

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3 minutes ago, MCO'sFan said:

No one said anything close to this. It's also a false narrative to say that they we (fans) should just accept it without discussing our opinions on a message board. 

Who is saying anyone should just accept it?  Is anyone arguing for McKenna to stay on the roster?   If they are, it’s only because they don’t want Stowers sitting on the bench and would rather have a worse player doing that.  

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Just now, Frobby said:

Who is saying anyone should just accept it?  Is anyone arguing for McKenna to stay on the roster?   If they are, it’s only because they don’t want Stowers sitting on the bench and would rather have a worse player doing that.  

Well some did argue for him to stay on the roster over Hays. :)

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17 hours ago, Spakman said:

Literally been praying every single second to the God of my choice that someone takes him away from the Orioles organization. Please! We all know he will not get cleaned because no one wants that hot mess.

You know what this means???  If he isn't claimed, then your God is powerless!  Now you'll have to deal with McKenna being recalled at some point plus a crisis of faith!  🤣

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14 minutes ago, BRobinsonfan said:

You know what this means???  If he isn't claimed, then your God is powerless!  Now you'll have to deal with McKenna being recalled at some point plus a crisis of faith!  🤣

If you were God would you listen to Spakman.  I’m guessing he has him blocked or on ignore.

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I admit I've always had a soft spot regarding McKenna. I like rooting for the underdog. But as @Frobby noted above, he pretty much is the definition of a replacement-level player. He's an okay defender, not an automatic out at the plate, and has a little speed. As the team has improved, and our 4th outfielder options have improved, his playing time has gone down – as it should. He's just a tool in the toolbox that we need less and less. 

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20 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Well some did argue for him to stay on the roster over Hays. :)

Yes, good point, 8 out of 154 people voted that way, though I suspect at least a couple of them were just being contrarian for the hell of it.  

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3 hours ago, Frobby said:

 I also didn’t like the remarks (in previous threads, not this one) suggesting that McKenna misjudging a fly ball was due to some character flaw on his part.

IIRC, didn't McKenna admit he wasn't "focused" out there with one of those (previous) gaffes?

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1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

You absolutely said it. You said “I don’t think he’s the type of 5th OFer that should be on a WS Contender”

Yet every team has guys like that.  So, your roster expectations are unrealistic and not founded on reality.

 

Thanks for your OPINION. Glad to know that every team has a defensive replacement that often plays poor defense. 

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

Who is saying anyone should just accept it?  Is anyone arguing for McKenna to stay on the roster?   If they are, it’s only because they don’t want Stowers sitting on the bench and would rather have a worse player doing that.  

@Sports Guy did. Every team has a guy like him. So, we should just shut up and not complain. It is apparently unrealistic and not based in reality (which is redundant btw) to expect a better player on the roster. You know, a defensive replacement that plays good defense consistently. Apparently, every team has one of those (McKenna) so, the O's need one too. Pure hubris IMHO

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

I’m sure it’s Spakman’s remark that set me off: “Literally been praying every single second to the God of my choice that someone takes him away from the Orioles organization.”  But just generally, I don’t hope that our players get claimed when they’re DFA.   When you say that, you’re saying that having the player in the organization is worse than not having him.  I don’t buy it.  I also didn’t like the remarks (in previous threads, not this one) suggesting that McKenna misjudging a fly ball was due to some character flaw on his part.

I can understand that, but I did think the remarks were over the top a bit for you. I typically would like players to make it through waivers, but I'll be honest, the various boneheaded or just poor defensive plays combined with his little league-esque over slide of stolen base just kinda made me think this guy is never going to get it. 

Peyton Burdick makes McKenna a little redundant as well as a 5th outfielder type. Burdick is a solid defensive outfielder who has a .903 OPS against AAA left-handers thanks to him popping some homers. Sound familiar? 

I've never been a fan of low baseball IQ players like McKenna who just find ways to do the little things that don't help a ballclub. I'm sure he's a good teammate and clubhouse guy and that's why Hyde/Elias likes him, but I'm ok if he's taken off waivers. Plus, maybe he just needs a shot to play everyday somewhere like Oakland or Chicago? Maybe it's for the best for him to get a chance somewhere else?

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1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

You absolutely said it. You said “I don’t think he’s the type of 5th OFer that should be on a WS Contender”

Yet every team has guys like that.  So, your roster expectations are unrealistic and not founded on reality.

 

I'd prefer a higher baseball IQ guy in that role myself. 

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It's interesting that 8 people actually voted for McKenna. 

Obviously the Orioles agreed with the 94.81% of Hangouters that rightly picked Hays.

I don't think Hays is done as a productive major leaguer and he's quality defensive outfielder with a plus arm in LF or RF.

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23 minutes ago, MCO'sFan said:

@Sports Guy did. Every team has a guy like him. So, we should just shut up and not complain. It is apparently unrealistic and not based in reality (which is redundant btw) to expect a better player on the roster. You know, a defensive replacement that plays good defense consistently. Apparently, every team has one of those (McKenna) so, the O's need one too. Pure hubris IMHO

"Shut up and not complain" is your addition here. I don't really see SG or anyone else saying that in this thread. He just disagreed with one of your points about McKenna. 

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