Bring up Mayo already!!

[RZNJ]

19 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

We lead the league in offense yet we need Mayo to play a spot where his glove is an issue? 
 

Unless Holliday is a bust where do you think Mayo is going to play? It’s not 3rd. 

Do you think, offense and defense combined, Urias is the better 3B between now and the end of the year?

Holliday isn’t here.   Again, some people act afraid that Mayo may actually play decent defense, provide above average offense, and lay claim to the 3B job like it’s a problem.   

[Safelykept]

23 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I said it earlier in the season but this team is going to the playoffs barring some rash of injuries or something very odd.

The rest of this season should be about putting the best team on the field as possible come October. 
 

I get what you are saying about Elias and I certainly don’t disagree but at some point, he has to look at what is happening and what is best and if that means losing some of his previous depth at the expense of being more talented and better, he needs to do it.

And thet need to start this process before September, Pitching is going to be hard to find . Get him up here now see if he can truly makes this offense even better

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

The lineup on most days:

1. Henderson - SS
2. Adley - C
3. Mayo - 3B (yes, I know they won't start him here but he's going to end up here)
4. Santander - RF
5. O'Hearn - DH against righties, Adley against lefties
6. Westburg - 2B
7. Kjerstad - LF
8. Mountcastle -1B
9. Mullins - CF

 

 

 

[wildcard]

20 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Hays is below average,  so yes.  I feel more strongly about the Mayo for Urias move.  Norby for Hays , not as much.

Hays is a year away from being an All-Star.    He is not bad when healthy.   He has been hurt to begin the season.  He comes back and then gets hit in the ribs with a fastball.    You are down on him.   But he could be a good trade chip if he was played until the deadline.

Hays is a year and a half from being a Free Agent.     The O's have others that can play LF.   I have been impressed with Stowers mobility.   Much better than I thought.

 I think Kjerstad is better suited for right field than left.  O's have a big left field at home.  Kind of surprised to see Kjerstad out there.

If Cowser can learn to hit major league pitching he has a long future with the O's.

Norby, Cook and Johnson are all OFers that are hitting well at AAA that I have not seen play much.  

So I am not against playing Hays more till the deadline.   He can be good when healthy.   I am fine with him being part of a trade for pitching also.

[wildcard]

31 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Palmer says a lot of crazy things at times.  There is zero chance he thinks Urias is on the same level as Brooks. 
 

Just stop.

So you are calling Palmer a liar?

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

So you are calling Palmer a liar?

I’m calling him an exaggerator and I’m calling you someone who is taking innocent comments and taking them to a level that they weren’t intended to go to.

[RZNJ]

7 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Hays is a year away from being an All-Star.    He is not bad when healthy.   He has been hurt to begin the season.  He comes back and then gets hit in the ribs with a fastball.    You are down on him.   But he could be a good trade chip if he was played until the deadline.

Hays is a year and a half from being a Free Agent.     The O's have others that can play LF.   I have been impressed with Stowers mobility.   Much better than I thought.

 I think Kjerstad is better suited for right field than left.  O's have a big left field at home.  Kind of surprised to see Kjerstad out there.

If Cowser can learn to hit major league pitching he has a long future with the O's.

Norby, Cook and Johnson are all OFers that are hitting well at AAA that I have not seen play much.  

So I am not against playing Hays more till the deadline.   He can be good when healthy.   I am fine with him being part of a trade for pitching also.

That all-star bit is meaningless.  Jorge Lopez was an all-star in 2022.  So what?

[RZNJ]

7 minutes ago, wildcard said:

So you are calling Palmer a liar?

Do you believe the current Ramon Urias is comparable to Brooks Robinson defensively?

I could make some bad jokes here but I’ll just make one.  We’re talking about prime Brooks Robinson right, not the old version in his last year?

Edited June 25 by RZNJ

[Aristotelian]

5 minutes ago, wildcard said:

So you are calling Palmer a liar?

What was the exact quote? I don't recall hearing the comparison but I would be shocked if he said anything more than "reminds me of Brooks" "Brooks made plays like that" etc. Urias did win a surprise gold glove one year but has certain physical limits and just hasn't been that good lately.

[Moose Milligan]

Can we get back to our Lord and Savior Coby Mayo please 

[RZNJ]

Just now, Moose Milligan said:

Can we get back to our Lord and Savior Coby Mayo please 

Could have sworn that was going to end with “OnlyOneOriole”.

[Aristotelian]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

3. Mayo - 3B (yes, I know they won't start him here but he's going to end up here)

 

Good post, Tony. I'm curious what you mean by the comment here. He has been playing 75% 3B, we already have Mountcastle/O'Hearn for 1B, and Adley/Kjerstad for DH. Mayo has played zero games in the outfield. If he comes up, I don't see why he wouldn't play 3B right away, and don't really see any other spot for him.

[Tony-OH]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

I said it earlier in the season but this team is going to the playoffs barring some rash of injuries or something very odd.

The rest of this season should be about putting the best team on the field as possible come October. 
 

I get what you are saying about Elias and I certainly don’t disagree but at some point, he has to look at what is happening and what is best and if that means losing some of his previous depth at the expense of being more talented and better, he needs to do it.

Good points and honestly, I wouldn't lose sleep if Urias was traded, but I do want Cowser getting everyday at bats to work on things. He's still going to be a very good player, but I want the best team on the field and right now I want to see Kjerstad get his shot and I don't want to see Cowser rotting on the bench. 

[wildcard]

14 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Do you believe the current Ramon Urias is comparable to Brooks Robinson defensively?

I could make some bad jokes here but I’ll just make one.  We’re talking about prime Brooks Robinson right, not the old version in his last year?

Obviously Brooks is the Gold Standard for 3B defense.   He has 16 GG.   He won his first at 23.   

Urias won one at 28.    When Palmer compares Urias defense to Brooks he is not saying he is on Brooks career level.   He is saying that Urias is playing at that moment  like Brooks did.  Palmer said is a lot in 2022.   The year Urias won the GG.

Urias hurt is leg in 2023.  is defense was down because of the injury.  But in 2024 he is healthy and playing much like he did defensively in 2022 at 3B.   He is not playing as much as a part time player.

What Palmer has said this year is that Urias is playing like a Gold Glover.   He makes a good play and Palmer will say like a GGer.  

If Urias could  hit he would be the O's 3B.  But he can't.  Westburg is a better 3B when offense and defense is combined.

 

[RZNJ]

6 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Obviously Brooks is the Gold Standard for 3B defense.   He has 16 GG.   He won his first at 23.   

Urias won one at 28.    When Palmer compares Urias defense to Brooks he is not saying he is on Brooks career level.   He is saying that Urias is playing at that moment  like Brooks did.  Palmer said is a lot in 2022.   The year Urias won the GG.

Urias hurt is leg in 2023.  is defense was down because of the injury.  But in 2024 he is healthy and playing much like he did defensively in 2022 at 3B.   He is not playing as much as a part time player.

What Palmer has said this year is that Urias is playing like a Gold Glover.   He makes a good play and Palmer will say like a GGer.  

If Urias could  hit he would be the O's 3B.  But he can't.  Westburg is a better 3B when offense and defense is combined.

 

The statistics don’t support your assertion that he’s playing defensively like he did in 2022.  Not even close.