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Aubrey has been a pretty good hitter over his minor leaguer career and he showed enough in his major league time that I'm not opposed to him being the placeholder for Snyder and/or Bell.

Injuries have been his biggest problem, but I liked his swing and felt he looked pretty good defensively at 1B. Honestly, I'd rather have him there then signing Crede.

Aubrey was a pretty good hitter in high-A after being drafted out of college. Career .264/.320/.431 in AA, .286/.325/.428 in AAA means he wasn't a pretty good hitter over his minor league career. If he was a major-league quality first baseman, he should have been able to dominate AAA the last two years, and he didn't.

If Aubrey is healthy and looks like he's showing potential, great! Let him compete for a bench spot next year, and if he dominates AAA (like anyone who can play 1B in the majors should be able to do), then he can take an expanded role. I'm pretty sure the Orioles learned their lesson during the Luis Hernandez fiasco though, and will sign another corner infielder before spring training.

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I believe Aubrey should compete for 1B. Not sure he can win it and I am sure there may be better alternatives out there that we could try to trade for. My surprise is the continued campaign for Scott at 1B. It is a new position for him basically. He has extreme streaks at the plate and IMO is not a good outfielder as he has little speed and gets horrible jumps on the ball. I am beginning to wonder about the assertion that there currently is no trade market for him and that maybe we should be listening to that. If there is no trade market currently, maybe the OH is vastly overvaluing him. He has enough experience as a hitter for the league to know what he brings, even as a DH. If we can't sell that, then what do we have really? A streaky power hitter who seems to be a great teammate and a hard worker. Sounds like a DH to me. Given that, what the front office truly needs to do is fix the corner IF spots on a long term basis and maybe look for another SS and another pitcher.

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If Aubrey is healthy and looks like he's showing potential, great! Let him compete for a bench spot next year, and if he dominates AAA (like anyone who can play 1B in the majors should be able to do), then he can take an expanded role.

Which brings up the question of who plays 1B at Norfolk. I assume that it'll be Snyder if he isn't starting with the O's, with one of Hughes and Aubrey at DH. So unless one of these three makes the MLB roster, somebody will be out of a regular job at AAA. And right now, all three are on the 40-man. I have to assume that one will lose the roster spot some time during ST if not before.

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Big difference with the 08 SS situation: we have Snyder in AAA.
Snyder isn't a sure thing by any means.

True, but he's good enough where we will want to give him a legitimate shot. If you think that shot should come in the 2nd half of 2010, then using a guy like Aubrey in the interim may make some sense. If you think he's not really ready until 2011, then you really want someone else here in 2010.

Personally, I'm bullish on Snyder. He has to earn his way to Baltimore, but I believe that will happen within half a season.

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Personally, I'm bullish on Snyder. He has to earn his way to Baltimore, but I believe that will happen within half a season.
He does not see alot of Bell or Snyder in 2010, unless they force their way into Baltimore, or injuries dictate they come up.

They are just not ready, he told me.

I think fans are overestimating when Snyder will be ready.

I don't see him until Sept at the earliest, ditto for Bell.

This isn't a Wieters or Reimold situation IMO.

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I think fans are overestimating when Snyder will be ready.

I don't see him until Sept at the earliest, ditto for Bell.

This isn't a Wieters or Reimold situation IMO.

Like I said in Roy's thread, absolutely nobody was saying last winter that Reimold would be ready for the majors by May. Things change when players step up and show they are ready. Snyder hit better than Reimold at a younger age at Bowie, and he outhit him at a younger age in the AFL. Does that mean he's ready for the majors now? No, but it means I've got a reasonable basis to be bullish about his chances of moving relatively quickly in 2010.

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This isn't a Wieters or Reimold situation IMO.

This absolutely is a Reimold situation. Reimold wasn't getting called up last year until he showed he should be. I mean, that's why we got Pie. If either player starts out like Reimold did last year in AAA, then he will be up here in June.

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This absolutely is a Reimold situation. Reimold wasn't getting called up last year until he showed he should be. I mean, that's why we got Pie. If either player starts out like Reimold did last year in AAA, then he will be up here in June.

Reimold was ready in ST and should have started over Pie as he and Montanez outplayed Pie in ST but was sent down because Pie was out of options and they both weren't.

If Snyder shows the same thing outplaying all the incumbents, he should get the starting job regardless of Aubrey being out of options.

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Reimold was ready in ST and should have started over Pie as he and Montanez outplayed Pie in STbut was sent down because Pie was out of options and they both weren't.

If Snyder shows the same thing outplaying all the incumbents, he should get the starting job regardless of Aubrey being out of options.

I can't tell with your "dancing" :D, but are you saying that this is like the Reimold situation? Clearly it is.

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Reimold was ready in ST and should have started over Pie as he and Montanez outplayed Pie in STbut was sent down because Pie was out of options and they both weren't.

If Snyder shows the same thing outplaying all the incumbents, he should get the starting job regardless of Hughes and Aubrey being out of options.

The point is, Reimold had never played AAA going into last spring. He'd been very good in AA, which he'd had to repeat because of injuries. He'd been so-so in three separate stints in the AFL. There was no talk at all last winter that Reimold might make the team out of spring training.

Reimold was very good in 2009 spring training, but in very limited playing time (32 plate appearances). He wasn't really given a chance to compete for a job. By contrast, Pie had 68 PA, Montanez had 55. Reimold got some attention with how he hit in the spring, but he earned his call-up with how he hit in AAA. I expect that is what Snyder and Bell will need to do, though they probably won't need to hit as well as Reimold did in AAA.

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