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Getting Abreu w/an option gets him for 3 years.

Two years, in my opinion. This year is shot. And Abreu's current contract has one guaranteed year (2007) and one option year that we would most certainly have to pick up in lieu of his NTC (2008).

I'm not counting this year as an actual year of Abreu's services as there are only two months left in the season. And even if we are successful in getting him, he's not going to vault us to contention this year.

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Ok, I thought his option yr. was 2009. I'd still do the trade though.

I would, too, but I would prefer to take the $16 million option and turn it into a guaranteed two year $22 million that takes him through 2009.

Three years, $39 million is a fair deal for him.

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You might like to do it but why would Abreu? It's the same as extending him one year at 6 million. Why would Abreu expect to cut his salary in 2008 from 16 million to 6M. I'm sure he's figuring he'll still be an elite player in 2009. Most players don't expect to get a lot worse.

Unlike the NFL, it's guaranteed money and he'd be on his team with his buddy Mora...

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If the rumors are true, we are at a forkroad as many have mentioned before. I don't see why we wouldn't trade for both Burrell and Abreu and hope the Phils eat a little contract and we don't have to give up much. If we got both and it sounds like we could get them for cheap, imagine the potential lineup the next few years which def could be competitive or, at the least, interesting to watch from a fan's standpoint.

Roberts 2B

Mora 3B

Abreu DH/RF

Tejada SS

Gibbons 1B

Burrell DH/LF

Markakis DH/OF

Hernandez C

Patterson CF

Then, with our young pitching improving with age, I don't see why we couldn't be competitive. If we picked up a decent veteran pitcher via free agency this winter to hold down a spot in case a young guy falters and a few bench players, I don't see this team being too far away from competing.

Of course, with all this in mind, we'd have to add a considerable amount of salary but with what we're losing this offseason (or hopefully sooner :D) in Chen, Conine, Hawkins, Javy and Millar's contracts, I think we can afford to spend a little and not salvage the farm.

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If the rumors are true, we are at a forkroad as many have mentioned before. I don't see why we wouldn't trade for both Burrell and Abreu and hope the Phils eat a little contract and we don't have to give up much. If we got both and it sounds like we could get them for cheap, imagine the potential lineup the next few years which def could be competitive or, at the least, interesting to watch from a fan's standpoint.

Roberts 2B

Mora 3B

Abreu DH/RF

Tejada SS

Gibbons 1B

Burrell DH/LF

Markakis DH/OF

Hernandez C

Patterson CF

Then, with our young pitching improving with age, I don't see why we couldn't be competitive. If we picked up a decent veteran pitcher via free agency this winter to hold down a spot in case a young guy falters and a few bench players, I don't see this team being too far away from competing.

Of course, with all this in mind, we'd have to add a considerable amount of salary but with what we're losing this offseason (or hopefully sooner :D) in Chen, Conine, Hawkins, Javy and Millar's contracts, I think we can afford to spend a little and not salvage the farm.

Yes, good idea.. but send Benson and Gibbons as part of the package and move Burrell to 1B.

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You might like to do it but why would Abreu? It's the same as extending him one year at 6 million. Why would Abreu expect to cut his salary in 2008 from 16 million to 6M. I'm sure he's figuring he'll still be an elite player in 2009. Most players don't expect to get a lot worse.

Because its not guaranteed that someone else picks up his option. If he keeps demanding that it be picked up, perhaps nobody will trade for him.

If I was Abreu, I'd certainly prefer a 3/$39M deal after this season than a 1/$15M deal.

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