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If the Orioles keep winning, I won't care as much about this "story". Misery loves company and the best time to break bad news is when everyone is in the dumps.

Tony may have missed the best time to bring this out. (hopefully)

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If the Orioles keep winning, I won't care as much about this "story". Misery loves company and the best time to break bad news is when everyone is in the dumps.

Tony may have missed the best time to bring this out. (hopefully)

That has nothing to do with it I'm sure.

Hopefully the delay may be from new information that has cleared some things up?

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I haven't forgot about it obviously. It's taking longer due to waiting for people to get back to me and to set up additional interviews. I want to make sure I cover my bases.

As for the timing, whether they are winning or losing, people will find this interesting at the very least.

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I haven't forgot about it obviously. It's taking longer due to waiting for people to get back to me and to set up additional interviews. I want to make sure I cover my bases.

As for the timing, whether they are winning or losing, people will find this interesting at the very least.

Can you confirm/deny that by 2012 the Baltimore Orioles will be the Havana Cigars?

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Can you confirm/deny that by 2012 the Baltimore Orioles will be the Havana Cigars?

Not that it matters any, but the AAA team in Cuba was the Havana Sugar Kings, who eventually morphed into the O's AAA team.

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In the 50's, they were the Reds' AAA team, and won the Little WS in '59 by beating Boston's AAA team, the Minneapolis Millers... while Fidel and troops were there in the stadium watching (!!) Because of the Castro brouhaha, the State Dept leaned on MLB to move the team, which they did in the middle of the 1960 season. They became the Jersey City Jerseys for the rest of 1960 and all of 1961, before ending up in 1962 as the Jacksonville Suns. In Jacksonville, they spent a couple years as the Indians' AAA team, then a couple years as the Cardinals' AAA team, and then wound up as the Mets' AAA team, which is who had them when they won International League championship in 1968. Then the Mets moved them to Norfolk in 1969, lured there by the promise of a new ballpark, one that was later replaced by Harbor Park. So, once again the team won a championship and promptly left town. This left Jacksonville without any MiL team for a couple years before they got a AA Southern League team.

Beginning in 2007, the Norfolk Tides became the O's AAA team. Which means the Oriole's AAA franchise used to be the Havana Sugar Kings. The Orioles' earlier connection to the Sugar Kings was Mike Cuellar, who pitched for the Sugar Kings from 1957-1960. A Cuban, he was then known as Miguel Cuellar. I don't know if he pitched while Fidel watched them beat Minneapolis, but Yaz hit a 400 foot dinger for Minneapolis...

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I haven't forgot about it obviously. It's taking longer due to waiting for people to get back to me and to set up additional interviews. I want to make sure I cover my bases.

As for the timing, whether they are winning or losing, people will find this interesting at the very least.

Tony said he wanted to interview O's officials and I imagine that's the hold up. I doubt they are very easy to pin down.

Hopefully they don't drag things out to try to keep this story under wraps...but I imagine if they don't cooperate, Tony will just release the info anyway.

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Tony said he wanted to interview O's officials and I imagine that's the hold up. I doubt they are very easy to pin down.

Hopefully they don't drag things out to try to keep this story under wraps...but I imagine if they don't cooperate, Tony will just release the info anyway.

Right I would think they would appreciate the opportunity Tony is giving them to respond. But if they don't feel they need to respond in a timely manner, Tony should just post the story. Their silence is telling in and of itself.

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At this point I'm just wondering whether the expose will really illuminate anything (as opposed to merely confirming our worst fears about the goings-on in/around the warehouse and throughout the rest of the organization).

Though I suppose I do have some hope that pinpointing the problems will at least make saying "here's how we fix XYZ" a bit easier/less speculative.

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