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paulcoates Veteran All-Star

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I have always said that this team will never win under the Angelos rule and that I would not financially support this team until he is gone. I have probably been to 5 games in the past 12 years, of which all but 1 or 2 were on the road.

Until he is gone, I will maintain my ways. At this point, I am not afraid to admit it, but Angelos has driven my once strong financial support and Oriole fervor completely away. I loathe Angelos and this entire Front Office. At this point, I am basically despondent and completely apathetic.

I certainly don't "hate" the Orioles, but I most certainly have not cared about this team for the past decade.

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Tony, I wonder if you could answer this one question? If not, I certainly 100% understand.

Is our angst and anger at MacPhail justified, or is he just the target of our misguided anger?

This is my guess, but he brought in MacPhail because he is very tight lipped and the person who is actually running this team is still Angelos 100%

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This is my guess, but he brought in MacPhail because he is very tight lipped and the person who is actually running this team is still Angelos 100%

No way Angelos would have ever signed Gonzalez, nor draft Hobgood last year, so I don't think so.

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Tony, I wonder if you could answer this one question? If not, I certainly 100% understand.

Is our angst and anger at MacPhail justified, or is he just the target of our misguided anger?

Why so black and white? Every single member of this organization should shoulder a share of the blame; MacPhail included as he's made decisions that have turned out awful. The next question is do you fire AM now and bring in someone else or does he get another offseason to try and improve the sitation.

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Why so black and white? Every single member of this organization should shoulder a share of the blame; MacPhail included as he's made decisions that have turned out awful. The next question is do you fire AM now and bring in someone else or does he get another offseason to try and improve the sitation.

My point is...myself and others are COMPLETELY fed up with how MacPhail is running the team. But, is it really MacPhail who is doing this, or is his hand being forced?

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This is my guess, but he brought in MacPhail because he is very tight lipped and the person who is actually running this team is still Angelos 100%

Then I guess Angelos deserves all the credit for the good things that AM has done and crafting a team that we were all very excited about in March?

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Then I guess Angelos deserves all the credit for the good things that AM has done and crafting a team that we were all very excited about in March?

I love how Angelos gets blamed for the losses, then also gets blamed for being too involved when it said he was against signing Gonzalez and Atkins.

So which one is it people? Are we mad at AM or PA?

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Then I guess Angelos deserves all the credit for the good things that AM has done and crafting a team that we were all very excited about in March?

To be honest, I was not all that excited. This team had to lean on kids in the AL East. I thought playing .500 was probably a stretch. I thought maybe 75 wins, tops.

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I love how Angelos gets blamed for the losses, then also gets blamed for being too involved when it said he was against signing Gonzalez and Atkins.

So which one is it people? Are we mad at AM or PA?

Well, PA hired AM.

Look, if this was a publicly traded company and PA was the CEO, he would have been out on the street 10 years ago.

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Then I guess Angelos deserves all the credit for the good things that AM has done and crafting a team that we were all very excited about in March?

You mean the credit for the good things that ended up being not good things, because the team that we thought would be decent stinks? If you're a GM who assembles a team that you believe to be in good shape...but the team ends up stinking...maybe you need to change what you believe will work. And, the pre-season opinions of a message board shouldn't really be validation that your 'plan' works. He was wrong. We were wrong.

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Tony, I wonder if you could answer this one question? If not, I certainly 100% understand.

Is our angst and anger at MacPhail justified, or is he just the target of our misguided anger?

When the piece comes out you'll be able to make your own conclusion.

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