Jump to content

Could the Angels be clearing a spot for Tejada


Sportfanatic4

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 206
  • Created
  • Last Reply
How does trading a SS signify a move for a third baseman?

It doesn't, receiving a starter does. The premise being that the Angels wanted Garland so that it would make dealing Weaver or Santana or Saunders easier. Apparently the deal would look "something like" Kendrick/Wood/Saunders/Adenhart for MCab.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It doesn't, receiving a starter does. The premise being that the Angels wanted Garland so that it would make dealing Weaver or Santana or Saunders easier. Apparently the deal would look "something like" Kendrick/Wood/Saunders/Adenhart for MCab.

Maybe but I don't buy that they needed another starter to trade Saunders and especially Santana.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes but not all of them will be interested in Miggy or have the players to trade for him.

If they have no interest or not enough talent then it doesn't matter when we trade Tejada because those teams will never come into play. It take two to dance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If they have no interest or not enough talent then it doesn't matter when we trade Tejada because those teams will never come into play. It take two to dance.

Wrong....We have been told that the Cubs have an offer on the table.

If that offer includes Pie and we aren't taking it, I hope it is because we may be working on something larger with the Dodgers as has been suggested.

If not, then we should jump on a Cubs offer, assuming Pie is in it.

I mean, if the rest of the package is total garbage, then i understand the hesitance there but Pie + others(Bigbird said Pie, Marshall and 2 MiLers) is likely enough to pull the trigger.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wrong....We have been told that the Cubs have an offer on the table.

If that offer includes Pie and we aren't taking it, I hope it is because we may be working on something larger with the Dodgers as has been suggested.

If not, then we should jump on a Cubs offer, assuming Pie is in it.

I mean, if the rest of the package is total garbage, then i understand the hesitance there but Pie + others(Bigbird said Pie, Marshall and 2 MiLers) is likely enough to pull the trigger.

Wrong? About what? I'm right and you're wrong. There how's that?

I think it's a pretty big assumption to think that Pie is in any Tejada deal. Bigbird says a lot of things that aren't neccessarily fact. He said "expect a lot of action" and the next day he said "It's going to be slow." I'm not implying anything by that other than that bigbird isn't gospel. So you really don't know what the O's have turned down and what they haven't so it's a real reach to assume that the O's are sitting on thier hands while solid offers for Tejada pass them by. Even if Pie is in a package that doesn't mean we couldn't get a better one by waiting for MCab to get moved, or that he won't be available later in the offseason.

This is the fact of the matter: Miguel Tejada is the premier SS/3b left on the market after MCab. There are quite a few teams looking for an upgrade at those positions; they can't all get MCab. At some point they will come to the O's. Now if they don't have the willingness or players to trade for Tejada now that won't change because MCab gets moved. The O's are better off waiting than moving Tejada for less than an optimal return and they risk NOTHING by waiting- to an extent. If this were Jan I could maybe see the angst but it isn't even Thanksgiving yet and the Winter Meetings haven't occurred. I've been real impressed by AM so far, in his willingness to let the market come to him and not panicking- see Weiter's negotiations, and the ST trade- and he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wrong? About what? I'm right and you're wrong. There how's that?
You were wrong because of the it takes 2 to tango...Well, both sides are there to tango...That's my point.
I think it's a pretty big assumption to think that Pie is in any Tejada deal.
Every insider on this board, who are usually extremely accurate, have all said Pie will be in a Miggy deal with the Cubs. I believe them a lot more than some guess from someone who isn't "in the know".
He said "expect a lot of action" and the next day he said "It's going to be slow." I'm not implying anything by that other than that bigbird isn't gospel. So you really don't know what the O's have turned down and what they haven't so it's a real reach to assume that the O's are sitting on thier hands while solid offers for Tejada pass them by. Even if Pie is in a package that doesn't mean we couldn't get a better one by waiting for MCab to get moved, or that he won't be available later in the offseason.
None of this really matters in comparison to what i said. I said, IF PIE is in the deal.....So if he's not, then it doesn't matter.
This is the fact of the matter: Miguel Tejada is the premier SS/3b left on the market after MCab. There are quite a few teams looking for an upgrade at those positions; they can't all get MCab
We have been hearing this the last 1.5 years.

Again, If Pie isn't in the deal or the rest of package is garbage or if they are working on something bigger with the Dodgers, i understand not trading him yet.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Again, If Pie isn't in the deal or the rest of package is garbage or if they are working on something bigger with the Dodgers, i understand not trading him yet.

I personally hope if Bedard is traded, that its with Tejada to LAD. Would you rather have one giant LAD deal or seperate LAD and CHC deals?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.




  • Posts

    • It's a good thing Irvin only cost the Orioles this guy: I was pretty skeptical of Hernaiz being anything more than a utility guy and had no issues with moving him for a guy who could potentially help in the rotation. This problem with Irvin is he went from this guy in 2023: to this guy in 2024: Don't worry though, we could lose Irvin because we have this guy in AAA who we gave up Norby and Stowers for:  
    • I am "old school" and I don't disagree, but it also doesn't have to be either/or in my opinion. I would substitue the word "tiring" for "obnoxious" above. 😀 I admittedly don't understand all the data and look at some of it in bewilderment. You can teach old dogs new tricks but it takes longer. I'm trying to learn and follow but still hang on to what I know best. (My smart phone ain't real smart either!!!!!) I suspect I may not be alone in the realm of Oriole fandom. 
    • I agree.  But I also think batting Kjerstad fourth was inane.  He's a rookie and he's just coming off the DL.  Put him lower in the lineup.  
    • I guess we'll find out over the offseason.  The danger is that Elias looks at Eflin, Grayson, Suarez and Kramer as a solid 1-4, assumes that Povich, McDermott and Rogers can battle it out for the fifth slot, and then decides we don't need to try to get a front line starter to replace Corbin Burnes.  
    • The offense looked bad the day we almost got no-hit. It honestly looked okay yesterday. Adley smashed the ball leading off the 2nd into a lineout (Cowser doubled later in the inning). Santander smashed into a lineout in the 8th before Adley's HR. The Tigers basically out-homered us but we were getting baserunners on and taking better at-bats overall. The complaints about the lack of situational hitting/smallball are misguided IMO. A homer-heavy lineup can get the job done if the homers are hit. There are some slumps and some holes in the lineup (injury replacements for Westburg, Mountcastle, and Urias) who can't make up for the slumping players like they did early in the year.
    • The underlying metrics always suggested Norby was due for serious regression, but some people are just desperate not to give Elias credit because they need to be able to point to some single, solitary thing and say, "This is why we're underperforming!" and the guy running the show is the obvious target. I think Norby and Stowers have value as major leaguers, but long-term I don't think they're guys we're going to miss. Entirely possible Trevor Rogers is someone forgettable as well. I guess sometimes both teams lose trades.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...