Tillman

[Camden_yardbird]

Needs a better pregame warmup...does anyone have a cardboard cutout of Albert Pujols?

[SteveO]

I don't think your understanding me. I like Tillman he is my favorite pitcher on the O's. I'm just calling it like it is. I need to him do it over and over again. I've like what I've seen so far in his brief season. I just want more of the same.

KK I am with ya then

[waroriole]

I would bet Adair forgot to give him the "do no suck" instructions again.

Can we please get Kranitz back?

At least Presley had the great idea to tell Davis to hit a grand slam.

[Flash- bd]

The last inning he was mostly 92. Before, 90-91. But I think you're going to have to get used to 91-94.

That would be disappointing. He's still probably a BOR starter at 91-94 but not the guy I thought he'd be. We'll see. I'd feel a lot worse if there weren't a plausible reason for this sudden velocity drop (cold--happened with Arrieta earlier in the year, too). It's been noticeably down vs. Cleveland and today.

Then again, it may just be because he's pitching on a regular 5 day schedule and this is what his velocity is once he gets into the day-to-day grind. But I'll selectively choose to believe (or at least hope for) otherwise until I'm left with no other choice.

[Lucky Jim]

That would be disappointing. He's still probably a BOR starter at 91-94 but not the guy I thought he'd be. We'll see. I'd feel a lot worse if there weren't a plausible reason for this sudden velocity drop (cold--happened with Arrieta earlier in the year, too). It's been noticeably down vs. Cleveland and today.

Then again, it may just be because he's pitching on a regular 5 day schedule and this is what his velocity is once he gets into the day-to-day grind. But I'll selectively choose to believe (or at least hope for) otherwise until I'm left with no other choice.

This is why I was willing to trade him for Headley. I still think he'll be fine, because that change will play and get better. At 93-94, most don't take good hacks at him. He appears to hide the ball pretty well. At 89-91, less so.

[Moose Milligan]

Only two balls thrown in the 4th inning.

[Lucky Jim]

Only two balls thrown in the 4th inning.

Can you start talking smack earlier, Moose?

[Flash- bd]

This is why I was willing to trade him for Headley. I still think he'll be fine, because that change will play and get better. At 93-94, most don't take good hacks at him. He appears to hide the ball pretty well. At 89-91, less so.

The change has been pretty good from the get-go, and continues to be so. He's incorporating that slider now more and, as I said, the curve is the best I've seen it so far today. At 93-94 with those secondaries he can be TOR. But if he's throwing anywhere from 90-94 like he is tonight his FB command isn't good enough, the margin of error will be too small, and he's probably a BOR guy at best.

[Moose Milligan]

Can you start talking smack earlier, Moose?

Pointing out that he's pitching like crap isn't talking smack.

[waroriole]

NewMarketMoose everyone.

[Flash- bd]

Another note (I know I'm verging on spamming this thread at this point): Tillman clearly doesn't trust his FB tonight (that is: at least he's aware his FB velocity is down). Throwing tons of first pitch curves. Just threw 5 straight off-speed pitches to start the bottom of the 5th.

[Hank Scorpio]

Pointing out that he's pitching like crap isn't talking smack.

He DID stink up the joint in the first inning. Badly.

[Lucky Jim]

He DID stink up the joint in the first inning. Badly.

I was just talking about the clear causal relationship between Moose urinating all over Tillman and his improved pitching. He should start before the first.

[Moose Milligan]

Amazing he's in line to get the win.

[Moose Milligan]

I was just talking about the clear causal relationship between Moose urinating all over Tillman and his improved pitching. He should start before the first.

Dude, if you like to think about getting peed on, go listen to some R. Kelly.