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What do you think BRob will earn next year? (Not necessarily from the Orioles)

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What do you think BRob will earn next year (not necessarily from the O's)?  

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  1. 1. What do you think BRob will earn next year (not necessarily from the O's)?

    • Only a minor league deal (or he'll retire)
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    • Less than $1 mm
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    • $1 -1.99 mm
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    • $2 - 3.99 mm
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    • $4 - 5.49 mm
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    • $5.50 mm or more
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Il BuonO Hangout Grand Counsel

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Flaherty can play short, third or corner outfield

Roberts can't

His role on the team, assuming Buck doesn't install him as the everyday second baseman, is too narrow.

Flaherty also played 1B last year and the year before word was that he got some training as an emergency catcher.

Can you imagine Roberts behind the plate? One foul ball off the mask and he'd be done for.

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Oh, Roberts wasn't worth his contract? I had no idea!

Brian Roberts made a little over 10 percent of the Orioles payroll and was worth 0.7 WAR. Markakis made more and was worth -0.1 WAR. Josh Johnson made over 10 percent of the Blue Jays payroll and was worth -1.6 WAR. Rodriguez, Sabathia and Teixeira all made more than 10 percent of the Yankees payroll and were worth 0.3, 0.3, and -0.2 WAR respectively. Dempster made almost 9 percent of the Red Sox payroll and was worth -0.2 WAR.

Twins with Morneau, White Sox with Konerko (and Peavy and Dunn), Astros with Pena, Athletics with Chris Young. Half the teams in the AL were crippled!

What were you fishing for with your cryptic one word response if not clarification? Of course BRob wasn't worth his contract.

BTW, if you're going to quote a post, it's a good idea to stick to the frame of reference of the post your quoting. In this case 2010-2013. In that time frame Roberts put up 0.9 cumulative WAR for $40 mil compared to Markakis' 6.5 for $44.7. As for the rest of your examples I'm not sure how they address the point. No one is arguing that Robert's contract was a good one or that bad contracts are exclusive to the Orioles.

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What were you fishing for with your cryptic one word response if not clarification? Of course BRob wasn't worth his contract.

BTW, if you're going to quote a post, it's a good idea to stick to the frame of reference of the post your quoting. In this case 2010-2013. In that time frame Roberts put up 0.9 cumulative WAR for $40 mil compared to Markakis' 6.5 for $44.7. As for the rest of your examples I'm not sure how they address the point. No one is arguing that Robert's contract was a good one or that bad contracts are exclusive to the Orioles.

Roberts is no longer a threat to steal bases or disrupt a pitcher. He does foul off and spoil pitchers pitches. He's not much these days, but he is what everyone is clamoring for the Orioles to shop for in plate discipline.

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Roberts is no longer a threat to steal bases or disrupt a pitcher. He does foul off and spoil pitchers pitches. He's not much these days, but he is what everyone is clamoring for the Orioles to shop for in plate discipline.

Brob actually was still quite a disruption to pitchers last year. I remember tons of times him getting on base and having the pitcher throw over there repeatedly. Even tho he didn't steal many bases, he was still an obvious threat since pitchers would throw over all the time.

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He'll be a good back up plan for the Yankees when they lose Cano.

75% average on four attempts. All year. Three steals. One more than Wieters. I really do not expect his stealing to be a big part of his game going forward.

He may not actually steal many bases, it's being a threat that makes it valuable. With 275 or whatever he has in steals over his career, he is gonna be a threat, even if he doesn't steal much. He will still be over there dancing all over the place getting the pitchers attention.

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He may not actually steal many bases, it's being a threat that makes it valuable. With 275 or whatever he has in steals over his career, he is gonna be a threat, even if he doesn't steal much. He will still be over there dancing all over the place getting the pitchers attention.

Other teams are not stupid. If he stops being a stolen base threat they will stop treating him like a stolen base threat.

He needs to steal enough to warrant special attention.

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Other teams are not stupid. If he stops being a stolen base threat they will stop treating him like a stolen base threat.

He needs to steal enough to warrant special attention.

I'll agree with that to a certain extent. He will still get the pitchers attention tho by dancing around. He didn't steal bases this year and pitchers threw over there constantly...

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