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Its not much in the grand scheme of things, but I know for certain this club won't be getting my playoff deposit if they are sitting as a fringe 2nd wild card team like last year. Not after this abysmal failure of an offseason. I believed PA would be there once the ship was righted, boy was I wrong about that one. Fool me once shame on you, fool me every single offseason thereafter simply makes me a fool.

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Hard to understand how you can regard a move as smart and reasonable without taking budget into account, but please go ahead and try. What reasonable moves would you have liked to have seen?

Whatever, dude. Stotle's response probably wasn't good enough for you, either.

As I said in my previous post, I don't like playing armchair GM and your condescending attitude isn't going to make me start anytime soon. However, this has been an awful offseason so far, I was hoping for something better. I'm not exactly sure what's been available to us and what hasn't been available to us...what deals have been close to being consummated and what deals haven't been.

Awaiting your snooty response.

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Whatever, dude. Stotle's response probably wasn't good enough for you, either.

As I said in my previous post, I don't like playing armchair GM and your condescending attitude isn't going to make me start anytime soon. However, this has been an awful offseason so far, I was hoping for something better. I'm not exactly sure what's been available to us and what hasn't been available to us...what deals have been close to being consummated and what deals haven't been.

Awaiting your snooty response.

If you have no opinion on that how can you have an opinion on the off season so far? It appears that you are unable to evaluate anything. But hey, you'll ***** any way, mindlessly, because that's what O's fan's are used to doing, and it's safe because they've never been any good, except for 2012.
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If you have no opinion on that how can you have an opinion on the off season so far? It appears that you are unable to evaluate anything. But hey, you'll ***** any way, mindlessly, because that's what O's fan's are used to doing, and it's safe because they've never been any good, except for 2012.

What the hell kind of logic is that? I can't say this is a crap offseason because I don't play armchair GM and sit around here and hypothesize on what deals I'd love to make or not make no matter how much they're based on reality? That makes a lot of sense.

Wait, sorry....this has been a completely brilliant offseason. We've clearly ramped up the amount of talent that we've got and made giant strides in being able to compete for the top of the division for not only 2014 but for years to come. No wonder there's been so much media coverage that says we've had one of the best offseasons in baseball so far. There's a month to go, still! Maybe we can make even more moves to separate ourselves from the Yanks, Rays and Sox because based on what we've done so far, we're clearly the frontrunners for the division. I think the additions of Delmon Young and Jack Cust will be talked about as brilliant moves for years and really will have put us over the top.

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If you have no opinion on that how can you have an opinion on the off season so far? It appears that you are unable to evaluate anything. But hey, you'll ***** any way, mindlessly, because that's what O's fan's are used to doing, and it's safe because they've never been any good, except for 2012.

If I have a meal at a restaurant and it tastes terrible, I can have the opinion that the meal sucked, regardless of whether or not I know the particular cause for the meal tasting terrible. I think that's a pretty simple concept.

I'll take the analogy further. Maybe the chef just wasn't given the proper ingredients, or the money to purchase the proper ingredients. I'd argue I'm well within my rights to say the chef's biggest failure was not identifying the lack of proper ingredients for this particular dish, and deciding he should be preparing a different entr?e altogether.

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If I have a meal at a restaurant and it tastes terrible, I can have the opinion that the meal sucked, regardless of whether or not I know the particular cause for the meal tasting terrible. I think that's a pretty simple concept.

I'll take the analogy further. Maybe the chef just wasn't given the proper ingredients, or the money to purchase the proper ingredients. I'd argue I'm well within my rights to say the chef's biggest failure was not identifying the lack of proper ingredients for this particular dish, and deciding he should be preparing a different entr?e altogether.

Well yeah, if you are going with the old "opinions are like a certain orifice and very one has one". So sure the off season has been awful. That's interesting. Duh.
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If you have no opinion on that how can you have an opinion on the off season so far? It appears that you are unable to evaluate anything. But hey, you'll ***** any way, mindlessly, because that's what O's fan's are used to doing, and it's safe because they've never been any good, except for 2012.

You are grumpier than usual today.

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Well yeah, if you are going with the old "opinions are like a certain orifice and very one has one". So sure the off season has been awful. That's interesting. Duh.

Just so we're clear, when I dislike a meal the restaurant's response should be:

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I assume the general rule of thumb in your world is everyone must remain agnostic on everything under and beyond the sun until we have ample evidence to prove without a doubt that there is a correct opinion to have. Must be a blast.

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Just so we're clear, when I dislike a meal the restaurant's response should be:

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<embed src="//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></object>

I assume the general rule of thumb in your world is everyone must remain agnostic on everything under and beyond the sun until we have ample evidence to prove without a doubt that there is a correct opinion to have. Must be a blast.

Normally, if we dont like the food or the service, we either give it another chance, or we say muck that, and be done with them, too many other places to eat. :)

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Normally, if we dont like how the team is being run, we either give it another chance, or we say muck that, and be done with them, too many other competent organizations we could be watching. :)

So following the analogy, what you're saying is...(edited above)

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Just so we're clear, when I dislike a meal the restaurant's response should be:

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I assume the general rule of thumb in your world is everyone must remain agnostic on everything under and beyond the sun until we have ample evidence to prove without a doubt that there is a correct opinion to have. Must be a blast.

No, but just saying things like the off season sucks but I don't know exactly why is pretty boring. If you think it sucks tell my why specifically. I'd find that interesting. I find this off season disappointing so far, but not because we didn't sign Choo, Ellsbury Garza or Tanaka. I think those were good things. I would have liked to see then go after Beltran, Murphy, or even resign Nate. I would have liked to see them sign Hart or trade for Morrison. I would have been interested in Colon. I am still hoping they can sign Arroyo or Burnett. I am upset about the JJ/Balfour fiasco because it smacks of more PA meddling.
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No, but just saying things like the off season sucks but I don't know exactly why is pretty boring. If you think it sucks tell my why specifically. I'd find that interesting. I find this off season disappointing so far, but not because we didn't sign Choo, Ellsbury Garza or Tanaka. I think those were good things. I would have liked to see then go after Beltran, Murphy, or even resign Nate. I would have liked to see them sign Hart or trade for Morrison. I would have been interested in Colon. I am still hoping they can sign Arroyo or Burnett. I am upset about the JJ/Balfour fiasco because it smacks of more PA meddling.

That's not at all what he was saying. He was saying the offseason was a disappointment because the quality of moves have been sub-par. It was an expression of frustration. It's not a fan's job to come up with solutions, though a message board is a fun place for some to try their hand at it. I don't see what the issue is.

All he was saying is, "I'm looking at what this team has done to prepare for 2014 and it is horrible." At the end of the day, that's really all that matters. Not ownership restrictions, not which players are willing to sign or extend. Not which teams are willing to wheel and deal. At the end of the day the construction of the team and how it performs is the bottom line, and anyone that invests time and money in the team is within their rights to express an opinion as to what that product looks like. And that isn't some random schmuck off the street -- he's a knowledgable baseball fan that follows the team closely and has an educated opinion as to what a competitive team looks like.

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That's not at all what he was saying. He was saying the offseason was a disappointment because the quality of moves have been sub-par. It was an expression of frustration. It's not a fan's job to come up with solutions, though a message board is a fun place for some to try their hand at it. I don't see what the issue is.

All he was saying is, "I'm looking at what this team has done to prepare for 2014 and it is horrible." At the end of the day, that's really all that matters. Not ownership restrictions, not which players are willing to sign or extend. Not which teams are willing to wheel and deal. At the end of the day the construction of the team and how it performs is the bottom line, and anyone that invests time and money in the team is within their rights to express an opinion as to what that product looks like. And that isn't some random schmuck off the street -- he's a knowledgable baseball fan that follows the team closely and has an educated opinion as to what a competitive team looks like.

I see. He is not saying the off season sucks but I can't say why, he's saying the off season is horrible but I won't say why even, though I'm and educated and knowledgeable baseball fan. :rolleyestf:
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