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Chris Davis did not know the Orioles had Offered an Extension?


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I really feel strongly that on the open market no team would give Chris Davis 20 for 8 years. That is a heck of a commitment. But we will agree to disagree.

That's because you use common sense :thumbsup1:

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This is an interesting read.

Moreover, while new local and national TV money is unquestionably having a dramatic impact, the hard-to-capture role of happenstance should not be ignored, either, in assessing the numbers. If, say, Robinson Cano had signed an extension with the Yankees and Masahiro Tanaka not been posted -- both of which were certainly possible at various points -- all of the roughly $400MM committed to those players would not have stayed on the market.
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I don't see Davis getting a 10 year contract like Votto. Votto contract was from ages 30-39. The last few years are probably not as productive as the earlier years. I could see Davis signing a 8 year contract at 28 that was from ages 28-35.

When Votto signed his deal, he had just posted three seasons in which he had a combined OPS of .983. I guess if Davis was .980ish the next two years he might command a deal like Votto's.

You look at a guy like Votto, his low OPS for his career is .874. Every other year he has been over .900. His floor is much higher than Davis'. I don't think you give a guy an 8 year deal based on one great season, unless the cost per year is much lower than market value.

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When Votto signed his deal, he had just posted three seasons in which he had a combined OPS of .983. I guess if Davis was .980ish the next two years he might command a deal like Votto's.

You look at a guy like Votto, his low OPS for his career is .874. Every other year he has been over .900. His floor is much higher than Davis'. I don't think you give a guy an 8 year deal based on one great season, unless the cost per year is much lower than market value.

That makes just too much sense.
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Davis would have gotten 7/140 if he was a FA last October.

I think the O's should offer him 8/147 that covers him two arbitration years and 6 years of his FA. That is age 28-35. Agree with it. Don't agree with it. If the O's offer it they have a decent chance of signing him. I don't think they will get him for less. He will be very hard to replace if they let him walk. I can see trading him but the O's certainly don't sound like they are ready to do that at this point.

Needless to say, I don't agree with it. Too much risk there based on one great year. If I thought he'd be a .900 OPS guy for the next 8 years, I'd feel differently.

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Frobby,

Do you want a championship? I listened to DD on 105.7 this morning and he said the O's are not going to spend in free agency. If Davis and Wieters don't sign we are not signing our own players and in Wieters case someone we developed. We aren't TAMPA. Look at our revenue. Frobby is happy going 500 and attending games. I want championships. In 2014 you have to spend money to win championships. I just don't get why you are so hung up on a low budget. My only guess is your real name is John Angelos and you are using the pseydonym Frobby.

I'm not trying to speak for Frobby, but why does this question/comment/accusation get asked every few months by someone? Let me make this clear once again.

1. We are not defending the Orioles organization.

2. We do not want the Orioles to be penny-pinchers.

3. We do not want a .500 season, we want to win championships.

4. The owner obviously does not think spending money is necessary to win, so instead of bashing him, or starting threads about signing the premium talent that we KNOW that ownership won't do, we acknowledge who we are and how ownership goes about their business, and we post our thoughts based on that reality, not based on some fantasy that the ownership will pay Davis 7/140 and Wieters 5/100 and also sign the top free agent pitchers. Why is this so hard to understand, and why do we get labeled as apologists for simply acknowledging the way the Orioles run their operation?

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I'm not trying to speak for Frobby, but why does this question/comment/accusation get asked every few months by someone? Let me make this clear once again.

1. We are not defending the Orioles organization.

2. We do not want the Orioles to be penny-pinchers.

3. We do not want a .500 season, we want to win championships.

4. The owner obviously does not think spending money is necessary to win, so instead of bashing him, or starting threads about signing the premium talent that we KNOW that ownership won't do, we acknowledge who we are and how ownership goes about their business, and we post our thoughts based on that reality, not based on some fantasy that the ownership will pay Davis 7/140 and Wieters 5/100 and also sign the top free agent pitchers. Why is this so hard to understand, and why do we get labeled as apologists for simply acknowledging the way the Orioles run their operation?

Some folks think that they can change the way the Orioles are operated by fan protest or general discontent. Since Frobby does not agree with this, he must be a stooge.

I personally want the Angelos family to spend every dollar necessary for the Orioles to be able to compete for the World Series.

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The year that Crush has this season, will impact his next contract, maybe significantly, if he duplicate another 1.000 OPS year.

If he does that, he is probably worth what he gets. In two years. Because we will never be able to afford it. But if he starts out just a bit slow by the break we can probably tempt him with a seven year 120 million dollar offer.

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Some folks think that they can change the way the Orioles are operated by fan protest or general discontent. Since Frobby does not agree with this, he must be a stooge.

There's a big difference between knowing and accepting what the situation is and defending it. I see very few doing the latter. Accepting it recognizes that the situation isn't going to change. I've accepted it long ago, but that doesn't mean from time-to-time I let my frustration with it get the best of me.

Finally, the most vocal proponent of a fan protest is no longer here and is listening to the sound of one hand clapping elsewhere.

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If he does that, he is probably worth what he gets. In two years. Because we will never be able to afford it. But if he starts out just a bit slow by the break we can probably tempt him with a seven year 120 million dollar offer.

What happen to Weams of last year that said this club has money to spend, but in the right places?

This club could afford it, of course, just my opinion.

Now, the owner chooses not to spend that kind of money, well, that is his right, since its his team.

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