Jump to content

Markakis add 15-20 LBs of muscle


Roll Tide

Recommended Posts

It's foolish not to consider the possibility of steroid use when an athlete has put on significant muscle in an offseason. Obviously none of us know for sure, but there's a decent chance that Markakis hit the juice this winter going into a contract year.

We've been fooled too many times.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 151
  • Created
  • Last Reply
It bugs the hell out of me that the OP makes the incorrect claim of Nick adding 15-20 lbs of "muscle"....which IS NOT what Showalter said.....and then see some people run with it like it was gospel and start alluding to PED's.

From Roch: "Nick Markakis is noticeably bigger this spring after working out hard in the offseason. He's put on 15-20 lbs., according to Showalter."

Buck said he had put on "15-20 lbs" - of total weight - which is quite easy to do in 4 months with regular workouts and the right kind of diet.

Good post. So much drama over nothing. In fact, drama over GOOD news.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No there is not...I understand everyone is suspect after the last couple decades, but I am sure a Brady type workout over a whole winter could do amazing things for most anyone in their late 20's, early 30's.

....Leave the Brady part out and focus on the workout part.....

You've never lifted weights consistently before if you think that.

If you gain 10 pounds of pure muscle in a full year you are doing great. And that's only possible if you don't have much muscle to begin with.

Nick gained 15-20 pounds of muscle, fat, and water weight. Not 15 pounds of muscle which would even be amazing on the juice in such a short period of time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest rochester
I wonder what happened between 2008 and 2009?.........::scratchchinhmm:

What exactly are you saying/implying here? I get the contrarian shtick, if that's what it is, but it seems most of your posts are hand grenades and provocative, having a decent discussion be damned. A shame really.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You've never lifted weights consistently before if you think that.

If you gain 10 pounds of pure muscle in a full year you are doing great. And that's only possible if you don't have much muscle to begin with.

Nick gained 15-20 pounds of muscle, fat, and water weight. Not 15 pounds of muscle which

would even be amazing on the juice in such a short period of time.

Everyone is different. I gain muscle pretty quickly when I lift weight consistently even at my age.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can believe this. I have been working out about 10 hours a week. My work outs are heavy on the weight lifting and so far since Jan 1 I have lost a whopping 6 lbs. However most people think I have lost at least 20. Basically I've turned all my fat weight into muscle thus not really losing much weight. I dunno the exact numbers, but I'd guess in one month with no where near professional workouts I've gained 5 lbs of muscle, mostly in my legs.

I also read the other day that Lolo Jones consumed 9000 calories a day to gain 20lbs of muscle to help her in the bomb sled. Nick is a thin guy which would require a similar approach to gain serious muscle. So who's to say he didn't meet up with an expert and bust his ass twice a day every day to get bigger to last the whole year?

Remember, his only job the last 4 months was to work out. If most of us can get 5-10 lbs of muscle and hold a full time job in four months, why couldn't he double it?

No you have no idea what you are talking about. Not possible to convert fat to muscle. Basically would be the same thing as converting bone to muscle.

1 pound of muscle a month is a good number. That's a lot more than most people think to be honest.

And you actually think anyone, especially a female, can put on 20lbs of muscle just like that? I don't think you realize how much 20lbs of muscle is. That's a transformation, she would look completely different.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Everyone is different. I gain muscle pretty quickly when I lift weight consistently even at my age.

No not really. The human body has it's limits. 10-15 pounds a year is the absolute maximum without some help and that's for beginners.

You don't realize how much that is though. That's why you don't believe it. That's A LOT of muscle.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No you have no idea what you are talking about. Not possible to convert fat to muscle. Basically would be the same thing as converting bone to muscle.

1 pound of muscle a month is a good number. That's a lot more than most people think to be honest.

And you actually think anyone, especially a female, can put on 20lbs of muscle just like that? I don't think you realize how much 20lbs of muscle is. That's a transformation, she would look completely different.

So you're going to insist Nick did something more than just working out, as in steroids? And then call Nick a woman too??? What is your major malfunction?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You've never lifted weights consistently before if you think that.

If you gain 10 pounds of pure muscle in a full year you are doing great. And that's only possible if you don't have much muscle to begin with.

Nick gained 15-20 pounds of muscle, fat, and water weight. Not 15 pounds of muscle which would even be amazing on the juice in such a short period of time.

Awesome that you can make judgements about my fitness training based on one single post.

If you read the entire thread you will see I agree the amount is hyperbole.

I was questioning the methods assumed not the propsed result.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nick looked weak and skinny to me last year. For whatever reason. How much muscle and weight you gain depends a lot on where you start. It's a lot easier for someone to lose weight if they are obese. It's a lot easier for someone to gain muscle if they are skinny. Who cares what the number is. And, anyone accusing Nick of steroids is really out of bounds. I have never questioned his effort on the field or off the field. I don't believe he is lazy and if he lost muscle, I believe it was because injuries limited his ability to maintain what he had. Why don't we all agree to stop the bickering and see how he does?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nick looked weak and skinny to me last year. For whatever reason. How much muscle and weight you gain depends a lot on where you start. It's a lot easier for someone to lose weight if they are obese. It's a lot easier for someone to gain muscle if they are skinny. Who cares what the number is. And, anyone accusing Nick of steroids is really out of bounds. I have never questioned his effort on the field or off the field. I don't believe he is lazy and if he lost muscle, I believe it was because injuries limited his ability to maintain what he had. Why don't we all agree to stop the bickering and see how he does?

What Brian said.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.




  • Posts

    • Yeah the amenities are pretty outdated at the yard and they seem to do nothing year over year to improve them. The touchscreens have been banged on to death to the point they barely function, so you can't accurately fill out your order at the kiosks, and they don't have a way for the people behind the counter to ring you up at many of the food places. The sound is low to non-existent in certain sections of the club level, like around 218. Seems like there should be speakers that reach there but they might have been damaged by rain, etc. and they are too lazy to fix them. If you go to a game that's even slightly busy, you will wait forever to get into the bathroom, and the sink will be an absolute mess with no soap or paper towels. It's even worse on the club level where they have one sink that's right by the door. Nearby businesses don't care, either. The Hilton parking garage reeks of decay, pot and human waste. They don't turn on the air circulation fans, even if cars are waiting for an hour and a half to exit from P3, filling up the air with carbon monoxide. They only let you enter the stadium with one 20 oz bottle of water. It's so expensive to buy a drink or water in the stadium, but with all the salty food, 20 oz of water isn't enough, especially on a hot day. Vegetarian food options are poor to none, other than things like chips, fries, hot pretzels and the occasional pizza. Vida Taco is better, but at an inconvenient location for many seats. The doors on the club level are not accessible. They're anti-accessible. Big, heavy doors you have to go through to get to/from the escalators, and big, heavy doors to get to your seats, none of them automatic (or even with the option to be automatic with a button press). Makes it hard to carry food out to your seats even if not handicapped. The furniture in the lounges on the club level seem designed to allow as few people as possible to sit down. Not great when we have so many rain delays during the season. Should put more, smaller chairs in and allow more of the club level ticket holders to have a seat while waiting for thunderstorms to pass. They keep a lot of the entrance/exit gates closed except for playoff/sellout games, which means people have to slowly "mooooo" all the way down Eutaw St to get to parking. They are too cheap to staff all the gates, so they make people exit by the warehouse, even though it would be a lot more convenient for many fans to open all the gates. Taking Light Rail would be super convenient, except that if there's at least 20k fans in attendance, it's common to have to wait 90-120 minutes to be able to board a non-full train heading toward Glen Burnie. A few trains might come by, but they are already full, or fill up fast when folks walk up to the Convention Center stop to pre-empt the folks trying to board at Camden Station. None of the garages in the area are set up to require pre-payment on entry (reservation, or give them your card / digital payment at the entrance till). If they were, emptying out the garage would be very quick, as they wouldn't need to ticket anyone on the way out: if you can't get in without paying, you can always just leave without having to stop and scan your phone or put a ticket in the machine. They shut down the Sports Legends Museum at Camden Station in 2015 because the Maryland Stadium Authority was too greedy. That place was a fun distraction if you were in the area when a game wasn't about to start, like if you show up super early on Opening Day or a playoff day. Superbook's restaurant on Eutaw is a huge downgrade from Dempsey's in terms of menu and service quality. Dempsey's used to be well-staffed, you could reserve a table online, and they had all kinds of great selection for every diet. Superbook seems like just another bar serving the same swill that the rest of the park serves, with extremely minimal and low-quality food. For that matter, most of the food at the stadium is very low quality these days. A lot of things we used to love are made to a lower standard now if they are served at all. These are gripes about the stadium and the area that haven't changed my entire adult life. Going to an O's game requires one to tolerate many small inconveniences and several major inconveniences, any number of which could easily be fixed by the relevant authorities if they gave a damn about the people who pay to come see the team play. You would think a mid-market team would be able to afford to invest in the fan experience. You would think the city and partnering organizations like garages, the Stadium Authority and MTA would at least try to do their part to make the experience enjoyable and free of kinks. You would think they would put some thought into handling the "growing pains" of the fanbase due to recent renewed interest after the dark years. Instead, all we get is the same indifference and the same annoyances year in and year out. The whole area is overdue for a revamp. Not sure if $600 mil will get it done, but at least it's a start. Hopefully they can start to patch up some of the many holes in the fan experience. If you're not going to invest in Burnes, at least make it so paying customers have an easier, more enjoyable time getting to/from the stadium and having some food while we're there.
    • Elias has only been in rebuild mode with the O's so there's not much to speculate on there.  Houston, where he spent his formative years, doesn't seem to like to be on the hook for more than a couple of big long-term contracts at any given time.  I can see that as being Elias' choice as well, albeit with a lower overall cost - Houston runs a big payroll.  But it's all guesswork.  I really don't know. If Elias takes the 2025 payroll to $150 million it will creep up to $200 million or so by 2028 just from keeping the core together.  That's where I start to wonder about sustainability due to market size, economic forces, etc., etc., etc... If it were up to me, I would add a couple of free agents this offseason even if the contracts were longer than ideal and be conservative about extensions elsewhere until the prospects establish themselves a little better.  I think there's a competitive opportunity that the team is already into that's worth exploiting. I think ownership is very happy to have Elias on board and they're not inclined to force him to do anything.  I also think Rubenstein's demonstrated business prowess is great enough to assume that he has had plenty enough time to come to a mutual understanding with Elias as to goals.
    • We need a RH O’hearn…in addition to Westburg. At least 3 batters that will push up the pitch count and cause damage in the top 5 of the lineup.
    • Boy,  that Jackson Merrill is a good young player that is playing his best ball down the season stretch and in the playoffs.   He's only 21.  I guess some young guys are able to play up to the pressure.   Who could have guessed that?
    • I’m aware.   You are arguing something im Not.
    • What agreement? The agreement you are talking about happened as a result of the move.  The MASN agreement would not have existed if Angelos had gone to court to block the move.
    • I’m saying the Os had an agreement with MLB and that should have held up.  Been pretty clear about that. 
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...