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Regretting Not Signing Andrew Miller?

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Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

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Ok, so let me change, just about most wanted him back for 1-2 years, and 3-4 was too risky for many.

I wasn't sniping. Right now I am on the wrong side of the argument.

You could probably just put "most" in your other statement and be fine.

You won't ever find 100% consensus.

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Ok, so let me change, just about most wanted him back for 1-2 years, and 3-4 was too risky for many.

Most knew 1-2 will likely be good...year 3 would like be a couple steps back and year 4 a huge drop off. IMo it's was worth the stretch considering we are in win now mode. Nick and Nelson are outperforming Snider and De Aza/Young by a lot.

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Most knew 1-2 will likely be good...year 3 would like be a couple steps back and year 4 a huge drop off. IMo it's was worth the stretch considering we are in win now mode. Nick and Nelson are outperforming Snider and De Aza/Young by a lot.

Not sure, I agree about Nick producing a lot this year, production wise.

Can't argue about Nellie producing.

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Not sure, I agree about Nick producing a lot this year, production wise.

Can't argue about Nellie producing.

Nick is getting on base at a near .400 clip. That's 50 points higher than last year. My concern is the injury has clearly affected his power. He hit an extra base hit last year about 15% of the time. This season he's at about 10% with no home runs. But for what we were using him fo (table setting) he's actually doing a better job.

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Nick is getting on base at a near .400 clip. That's 50 points higher than last year. My concern is the injury has clearly affected his power. He hit an extra base hit last year about 15% of the time. This season he's at about 10% with no home runs. But for what we were using him fo (table setting) he's actually doing a better job.

He is getting singles and has scored a few runs, ranked 15th, but ranked 96th for RBIs.

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Nick is getting on base at a near .400 clip. That's 50 points higher than last year. My concern is the injury has clearly affected his power. He hit an extra base hit last year about 15% of the time. This season he's at about 10% with no home runs. But for what we were using him fo (table setting) he's actually doing a better job.

Snider has a 114 wRC+ to Markakis 111. fWAR has it 0.4 to 0.3 in favor of Snider. rWAR has it 0.5 to -0.1 also in favor of Snider.

We sure miss Nick Markakis.

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Snider has a 114 wRC+ to Markakis 111. fWAR has it 0.4 to 0.3 in favor of Snider. rWAR has it 0.5 to -0.1 also in favor of Snider.

We sure miss Nick Markakis.

Snider is not hitting lead off and is play part time (has about 40 less at bats). Before the switch to Machado recently it was mostly De Aza and his .264 OBP.

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I said I missed him. I quoted myself. A Yankee Fan was trashing that he could not pitch thwo days in a row. Not me.

OHHHHH. My apologies sir. I thought you were touting the O's front office for not signing him. Thanks for clarifying.

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This thread is starting to ramble all over the place. I will merely observe that you don't judge any of these decisions based on one month of play.

I find that I'm eating more grits lately since I moved to North Carolina. But they are bland, so I've taken a liking to mixing hot sauce in my grits. The corn porridge really soaks it up, brings the flavor out. So use a hot sauce with flavor, not just Texas Pete.

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I believe that 10 or 11 of his 14 homers have come on the road.

Who knows - maybe he'd have 20 now if the O's had kept him.

Ok, I'll stop with the what if's and try to enjoy what we have... at least for a day or 2.

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Who knows - maybe he'd have 20 now if the O's had kept him.

Ok, I'll stop with the what if's and try to enjoy what we have... at least for a day or 2.

Last season through 23 games, O's had scored 104 runs. This year they've scored 120 through 23. I like our guys.

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I don't really believe in a "future is now" approach. In my opinion, you have to balance the present and the future, unless you want the future to look like 1998-2011. I think Dan and Buck have done a great job of that.

Well, then the Orioles would probably never win under your tenure as GM:)

Your two options are: "win now" or be like 1998-2011?

I do believe there is something in between...

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