MLBTR projecting Chris Davis at 7 yr/ with salary in the mid 20m's

[weams]

Steve Ballmer, maybe.

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Steve wants a Return on his investment.

[mdbdotcom]

If you really want to help your community, you make money with your baseball team and donate a lot of it to local schools, arts organizations, health and wellness projects, etc. Losing money on your baseball team so your "community" can enjoy a championship is the height of self indulgence.

[neveradoubt]

The Mariners GM got fired?

and cruz plays on. what an apologist. not unlike so many others on here

[clapdiddy]

If you really want to help your community, you make money with your baseball team and donate a lot of it to local schools, arts organizations, health and wellness projects, etc. Losing money on your baseball team so your "community" can enjoy a championship is the height of self indulgence.

Not saying that I disagree with you, but I believe Angelos has made a TON of money practicing law and has done all of these things.

I have no doubt that he could afford to throw some more money into the team and still be able to support the community. His other shareholders might not be happy about that, but I doubt that any of those folks are counting on profit from the Orioles in order to put food on their plates.

[Redskins Rick]

and cruz plays on. what an apologist. not unlike so many others on here

Seattle has two 24 million dollar and one 14 million dollar contracts and then a bunch of guys making low end scale money.

The team is in next to last place, and not performing to the level the owner expects.

of course, somebody is going to take the fall.

[DrungoHazewood]

Sign him or blow the team up and rebuild. None of this in the middle crap

Yea, maybe we could trade Manny and Schoop as part of the rebuild. They could bring back several young, talented players under team control for a number of years.

[Stotle]

Yea, maybe we could trade Manny and Schoop as part of the rebuild. They could bring back several young, talented players under team control for a number of years.

Why would you trade young cost controlled players for young cost controlled players?

[DrungoHazewood]

I think there are a fair amount of strategies that could be successful in between signing Davis to a ludicrous contract and a total rebuild. However, I also didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

In modern America the only two settings are absolute zero and 11. If you're not burning it to the ground and starting over, or spending a zillion dollars you're some kind of wussy Euro-socialist. Yes, I'm still talking about baseball.

[DrungoHazewood]

Why would you trade young cost controlled players for young cost controlled players?

Exactly.

[Stotle]

Exactly.

Oh, got it. I assume your issue is with the phrase "blow the team up." It doesn't really look like a team you'd blow up. The valuable players are all young/cheap outside of Jones and Britton (who are still relatively young and cheap). So, there isn't really anything to blow up. I think it should without question be rebuilt, but there just isn't much to tear down and repurpose at this point.

[DrungoHazewood]

Oh, got it. I assume your issue is with the phrase "blow the team up." It doesn't really look like a team you'd blow up. The valuable players are all young/cheap outside of Jones and Britton (who are still relatively young and cheap). So, there isn't really anything to blow up. I think it should without question be rebuilt, but there just isn't much to tear down and repurpose at this point.

Right. You have a core of at very least Machado, Schoop, probably Jones, maybe some of the pitching. You just augment that, add a farm system, and see where it gets you.

[MemorialStadKid]

Absolutely nobody made that argument about Cruz. The argument with him was solely about whether he'd retain enough value over four years to justify committing $58 mm instead of investing it in younger players. And the argument about Davis will be similar. If you have $150 mm to invest, is that the best way to invest it, given Davis' inconsistent track record? If he gives you three really good years and four disappointing ones, will you feel it was money well spent?

All things being equal, I wouldn't ever give Davis more than 5/90m.

However, we're one year removed from an offseason where we let two extremely popular clubhouse guys go (who were very good players) without a plan in place to replicate their output. The hit to clubhouse morale was deep and the Orioles never seemed to be the same in terms of team unity. Adam wasn't happy when Markakis left and the AAAA guys got DFA'd at a ridiculously high rate.

In this case, I'd sadly (reluctantly) suggest paying Davis for the sake of morale UNLESS the Orioles have targeted someone else in FA who could get us at least half of Davis' production. If we could get a legit RF and at least one TOR SP and a solid (not spectacular) 1B/DH type, then I wouldn't mind Davis walking.

But if Wieters, Davis, Chen, Parra and DoD walk, we're going to be in serious trouble.

MSK

[Babypowder]

Right. You have a core of at very least Machado, Schoop, probably Jones, maybe some of the pitching. You just augment that, add a farm system, and see where it gets you.

Nope, if you don't sign Davis the team has no shot of being good again until like 2025. Tear it all down.

[MurphDogg]

The bottom line is that the payroll isn't going to decrease by $40 million. They are going to pay someone, whether it is Davis, Wieters, Cespedes, Upton or someone else. Wieters, Davis, Chen, De Aza, Pearce, Snider, Hunter/Parra and Bud Norris's salaries and roster spots are not all going to go to players making the minimum. There will be moves made and players added in the offseason and to deny that just because they didn't add much last offseason because of $20 million of arbitration raises is to wilfully misrepreset the economic realities of baseball.

[webbrick2010]

Interesting that when Davis signs elsewhere it will be the second consecutive year that we lost the Most Valuable Oriole recipient. Manny will be the big favorite to win it next year.