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We're losing multiple starting position players(one of which being the MLB HR leader), our most reliable SP, and our $10 million+ starting SS is coming off his worst offensive season ever due to a torn labrum that could continue to hamper him going forward.

Spending $6 million or more on a 33 year old RP is not a luxury we can afford, IMO.

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He's pitched in 45 of our wins and 22 of our losses. I'd hate to see how many of those 45 we win without him. We don't have any aces on this staff. So we need a great bullpen to hold the pitching staff together. We had that this year and still couldn't do anything. Again, I'd hate to see where'd we be without the second best bullpen ERA in baseball. Keep a strength a strength. Pay for quality. O'day is worth 3/24, even a little more.

We've failed to produce TOR starters and we're never going to be in the bidding for one. So we have to stick with our formula of trying to get 5-6 IP from our Starters and hand the game over to the pen. Losing O'day would destroy this. Tillman, Gonzo, Ubaldo and Gausman aren't going to suddenly turn into consistent 7 IP Sp's. There's room to rebound next year but not that much. Let's face it we're going to have piece together our rotation and have a dominant pen. It's worked before.

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Sign him at 3/21 (if you can), make him the closer. Trade Britton (return should be decent) and make Givens the new O'Day.

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Don't trade Britton. pffffttt! Having the two together is what makes our bullpen.

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"It's not something I lay awake at night and think about doing. I don't feel like I have to be a closer to be validated," O'Day. "But if somebody wants me to do that, I'd be glad to do it. I enjoy what I do. Sometimes those situations in the seventh or eighth are harder situations to get out of than the ninth. I appreciate what closers do, I'm not saying their job is easy. They want me to close or set up, I'll do whatever they want me to do."

Love it. You see from his spot duty that the man can close, but he doesn't bring the ego. Of course it does help that set up men are making more money these days.

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3/21 is a fair deal for O'Day but I don't believe the O's should be paying it. I wouldn't be happy with that unless they are moving Britton in a trade or trying to convert him to starter and then making O'Day the closer. I'd like to see a little imagination instead of trying to keep the team together that just won 80-81 games.

Their imagination is limited by their payroll. They basically can't win in a bidding war.

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Fippity doo dah. After four years of watching O'Day, I don't care much what FIP says.

Wouldn't that have been better stated as "get off my lawn, you stinkin' kids!!"?

We're losing multiple starting position players(one of which being the MLB HR leader), our most reliable SP, and our $10 million+ starting SS is coming off his worst offensive season ever due to a torn labrum that could continue to hamper him going forward.

Spending $6 million or more on a 33 year old RP is not a luxury we can afford, IMO.

If there's ever a year where they can afford $7M for a reliever it's now. Even if they're trying to sign multiple $15-20M/yr free agents it'll be difficult to exceed last year's payroll with so much salary coming off the books.

Now... that's not the same thing as saying $7M+ a year for O'Day is necessarily the best use of that money.

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Wouldn't that have been better stated as "get off my lawn, you stinkin' kids!!"?

If there's ever a year where they can afford $7M for a reliever it's now. Even if they're trying to sign multiple $15-20M/yr free agents it'll be difficult to exceed last year's payroll with so much salary coming off the books.

Now... that's not the same thing as saying $7M+ a year for O'Day is necessarily the best use of that money.

Right, if one of their offseason goals is to keep payroll at 2015 levels they could find a worse way to spend the money.

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