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[O's are Legends]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orioles have now signed all 10 arb eligible players (via <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieInTheYard">@EddieInTheYard</a>) plus they signed 3/4 big free agents. Impressive.</p>? Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="

">February 6, 2016</a></blockquote>

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I hope Chen does very well against the Nats. Appreciate his time here but it was time for him to cash in his lottery ticket at the amusement park that also serves as a ballpark.

[sportsfan8703]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orioles have now signed all 10 arb eligible players (via <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieInTheYard">@EddieInTheYard</a>) plus they signed 3/4 big free agents. Impressive.</p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="

">February 6, 2016</a></blockquote>

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Next up, Machado extension.

[clapdiddy]

Next up, Machado extension.

I would trade a Manny extension for every move we've made thus far.

[weams]

I would trade a Manny extension for every move we've made thus far.

How'd that A-Rod deal work out for Texas?

[CaptainRedbeard]

I would trade a Manny extension for every move we've made thus far.

+1

For lack of a better term, extending Manny should be the "priority" of the offseason. I have now waiting until waiting until now to do it because it's not as pressing, but getting an extension before the season is monumentally more important than anything else we could have done this offseason.

There's a good chance that Manny puts up another monster year and then doesn't want an extension because he sniffs free agency 2 years away. We can't let that happen. Manny is a HOF talent of the type that you should never allow leave your team.

[weams]

+1

For lack of a better term, extending Manny should be the "priority" of the offseason. I have now waiting until waiting until now to do it because it's not as pressing, but getting an extension before the season is monumentally more important than anything else we could have done this offseason.

There's a good chance that Manny puts up another monster year and then doesn't want an extension because he sniffs free agency 2 years away. We can't let that happen. Manny is a HOF talent of the type that you should never allow leave your team.

How many years of free agency are you trying to guarantee and what contract after the opt out will you dangle?

[clapdiddy]

How'd that A-Rod deal work out for Texas?

I don't think I'd go for 10 years, but I wouldn't object. Plus, the Rangers dumped him. I'm guessing if Manny's signed and we need to do so, he'd be a very valuable trade chip.

[CaptainRedbeard]

How'd that A-Rod deal work out for Texas?

A-Rod averaged 7.0 fWAR a season over his original 10-year contract. On a production basis, he was worth his contract and then some. Unless you think Manny is going to use steroids or force his way out of town into a bad trade, like A-Rod, comparing him to A-Rod circa age 25/26 when he signed that contract is not a bad comparison.

[OsEatAlEast]

I might be in the minority. But I think the O's should see if Manny can put back to back healthy seasons together. The kind of contract Manny would command might be a crippler if he can't play a significant portion of it.

[CaptainRedbeard]

How many years of free agency are you trying to guarantee and what contract after the opt out will you dangle?

I couldn't care less about the actual terms. That's not my problem to figure out. I'd give him Trout's contract. I'd give him Stanton's contract. There's yet to be a deal signed that I wouldn't give Manny right now. He's that valuable. Trout is the only contemporaneous case of a player that could be comparable - he's far better than Manny, and still I'd sign him to the exact same terms in a heartbeat.

Manny's 3 years away from free agency. He's going to be willing to give up some future value in order to extend. As long as that future value is manifested some way in a favorable contract for the Orioles, it will be worth doing.

Also, even if we want to pay complete market rates for him, why wouldn't we want to do that? Chris Davis is the only long-term contract we have now. It's not going to restrict future payrolls. We have no other superstar young players that we need to worry about retaining 3+ years down the road, nor any in our system. Manny could go down as an inner-circle Hall of Famer. A market value, monster contract for him over his prime years is going to be worth doing in almost any conceivable scenario.

[CaptainRedbeard]

I might be in the minority. But I think the O's should see if Manny can put back to back healthy seasons together. The kind of contract Manny would command might be a crippler if he can't play a significant portion of it.

I'd agree with you if he was 4 seasons away from free agency. But if we let him play another season and he is healthy and as productive as last year, there's not going to be enough incentive for him to sign an extension 2 years away from free agency. We're potentially destroying all our leverage by letting him play another season without an extension.

Also, keep in mind, the same durability concerns that we have also keep the price down on a potential Manny season, which increases the potential surplus value of the contract. Even if we could sign him next offseason, we'd be forfeiting alot of value to do so.

[backwardsk]

How'd that A-Rod deal work out for Texas?

Seattle didn't extend him. How'd that work out?

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[Machado13]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orioles have now signed all 10 arb eligible players (via <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieInTheYard">@EddieInTheYard</a>) plus they signed 3/4 big free agents. Impressive.</p>? Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="

">February 6, 2016</a></blockquote>

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Yikes at all the comments. Seems like most are not bullish on Os despite retaining their own.

[Can_of_corn]

Yikes at all the comments. Seems like most are not bullish on Os despite retaining their own.

When you have team that won 81 games last season and most of their offseason was spent giving those same players significant raises that tends to happen.

[Machado13]

When you have team that won 81 games last season and most of their offseason was spent giving those same players significant raises that tends to happen.

Yeah true.

Still Os have most wins in AL since 2012? I'm not high on the chances this season but I thought it was interesting.