Os Sign O'Day for 4 Years - It's official

[Redskins Rick]

Where would you draw the line, 3/21, 3/24, 3/27. I wouldn't do 3/21 which I think is the minimum he can get.

Very good question, I would be tempted for 3/21, but it's not my money that I am spending.

[weams]

Very good question, I would be tempted for 3/21, but it's not my money that I am spending.

Would you be tempted at 3/25?

[Redskins Rick]

Would you be tempted at 3/25?

Personally, that is getting a bit high for my taste.

I wouldn't scream for DD dismissal, if he did go that high, but I think thats safe that DD wont go that high.

I would also see another team taking a chance and making him a closer.

[weams]

Personally, that is getting a bit high for my taste.

I wouldn't scream for DD dismissal, if he did go that high, but I think thats safe that DD wont go that high.

I would also see another team taking a chance and making him a closer.

What about 3/26.5?

[Redskins Rick]

What about 3/26.5?

Nope, 3/26.499 is my absolute top offer. :wedge:

[weams]

Nope, 3/26.499 is my absolute top offer. :wedge:

Ok. I believe that if Andrew Miller and his health concern, being hand dominant to 23% of the batters he faces could get a bid of 4/40 that Darren is going to get 3/28. Being hand dominant against 77% of the opposition.

[Redskins Rick]

Ok. I believe that if Andrew Miller and his health concern, being hand dominant to 23% of the batters he faces could get a bid of 4/40 that Darren is going to get 3/28. Being hand dominant against 77% of the opposition.

You could be very right.

I doubt DD will go 3/29, but what do I know.

[Il BuonO]

Don't go out on a limb or anything. Would you do 3/21 if it was your money?

Well, I will. No. Givens can step into his role right now and will fill in quite nicely. That money will be allocated partly to an area of need for an everyday player.

[Can_of_corn]

Ok. I believe that if Andrew Miller and his health concern, being hand dominant to 23% of the batters he faces could get a bid of 4/40 that Darren is going to get 3/28. Being hand dominant against 77% of the opposition.

Miller is dominant against 100% of the opposition.

[Can_of_corn]

I would agree. And I'm not saying Givens will be as good as O'Day. Just that the dropoff from O'Day to Givens and the 6.5-8M saved is better.

I think there is a shot he will be.

His K and BB numbers have been very good.

This is only his third year on the mound, he might still be improving.

[Redskins Rick]

Possible. I wasn't saying he wouldn't be as good either. My point was only that Givens could be worse than O'Day and it would still be a good move to let O'Day walk.

A bullpen of Givens and O'Day would be a pretty good duo to help bridge the gap to Britton.

[Can_of_corn]

A bullpen of Givens and O'Day would be a pretty good duo to help bridge the gap to Britton.

Even with the differences in velocity I wouldn't like two right handed guys both throwing from that sort of angle.

[weams]

Even with the differences in velocity I wouldn't like two right handed guys both throwing from that sort of angle.

It's the reason we did not keep Pat Neshek.

[Can_of_corn]

Yes, it would. But again, I'd rather go with Brach, Roe, Drake, Jorge Rondon, Mike Wright (if he doesn't start) and see which of those guys step forward. There is no reason not to make use of the one area this system has depth. Sign O'Day and that's 6.5-8M less to spend in another area for the next 3 years. You also release a viable reliever or force someone like Drake to waste away on the AAA shuttle.

Even with that depth, we could still have Jason Garcia in the minors next year as well as Wilcard favorite, Andrew Triggs. Not to mention a couple more AAAA castoffs this winter.

People think O'Day can't regress over the next 3 years because he's a sidearmer. Has anyone looked at the history of sidearmers. I doubt that they are immune to aging.

If they were then they would all still be pitching.

[Can_of_corn]

Then I would say that was a dumb reason. First of all, Neshek and O'Day are two different pitchers and their arm angles are far from exactly the same. If the argument is that having Neshek or another sidearmer would make O'Day less effective, I don't buy it.

That is part of it. There is also the fact that sidearmers tend to have severe splits. I can see why a team would not want two guys that are both vulnerable to left handed hitting in the same bullpen.