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I was underwhelmed with the podcast, and the chapter in the book this year. The host said the primary interviewee, before Roch, is the chapter author from the annual. In that segment the podcast generally talked through the chapter.

Jonathan Bernhardt was the author this year, and he was pessimistic. His main idea is Duquette's a one-note GM, whose only play is waiting out the market for prices to drop, you can't get nice things that way, and you get what you pay for. And you have to spend, because you can't develop.

Two bits bugged me. One, in discussing the farm, he riffed about how there's no Top 100 prospects, before the host corrected him that BP still has Bundy and Harvey in their mix. Two, he praised Chen as Duquette's best value signing, but said he felt like that's the kind of thing they couldn't ever do again. He did not discuss Kim at all, whom I see going into the year as a sort of Chen position player cousin. He might be Travis Snider-y, but that was probably about the expectation level we had for Chen in the beginning as well. If we close with Fowler on good terms, one might argue Kim's $7M has already paid for itself by giving the club's outfield a higher floor going into a larger negotiation.

I used to learn stuff about the Orioles regularly from BP, but moreso before becoming a reader here. Overall I'd say this year's BP was similar to a medium good Hangout post, but pretty much every week I see something more illuminating here. It's still a good resource for perspective on other clubs I don't follow as closely.

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http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28461

They order their reviews from worst projected team to best. The Orioles are the 4th team in the preview and the 1st AL team to be reviewed (that means they're projected to be the worst team in the AL).

This is a pretty arrogant interview. We know all. You know nothing. Maybe it is a generational thing with me, but a little bit of doubt would be refreshing.

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This is a pretty arrogant interview. We know all. You know nothing. Maybe it is a generational thing with me, but a little bit of doubt would be refreshing.

I'm sorry, I thought these guys were pretty much right on with there observations. They maybe proven wrong but they were not unfair. I thought Roch was as honest as I have ever heard him.

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I was underwhelmed with the podcast, and the chapter in the book this year. The host said the primary interviewee, before Roch, is the chapter author from the annual. In that segment the podcast generally talked through the chapter.

Jonathan Bernhardt was the author this year, and he was pessimistic. His main idea is Duquette's a one-note GM, whose only play is waiting out the market for prices to drop, you can't get nice things that way, and you get what you pay for. And you have to spend, because you can't develop.

Two bits bugged me. One, in discussing the farm, he riffed about how there's no Top 100 prospects, before the host corrected him that BP still has Bundy and Harvey in their mix. Two, he praised Chen as Duquette's best value signing, but said he felt like that's the kind of thing they couldn't ever do again. He did not discuss Kim at all, whom I see going into the year as a sort of Chen position player cousin. He might be Travis Snider-y, but that was probably about the expectation level we had for Chen in the beginning as well. If we close with Fowler on good terms, one might argue Kim's $7M has already paid for itself by giving the club's outfield a higher floor going into a larger negotiation.

I used to learn stuff about the Orioles regularly from BP, but moreso before becoming a reader here. Overall I'd say this year's BP was similar to a medium good Hangout post, but pretty much every week I see something more illuminating here. It's still a good resource for perspective on other clubs I don't follow as closely.

This is a pretty arrogant interview. We know all. You know nothing. Maybe it is a generational thing with me, but a little bit of doubt would be refreshing.

The general tone matches their previous years when reviewing the Orioles... even though it's a different guest each year. Ben usually tries to offer qualifiers like "but we're always wrong about the Orioles" and "Orioles fans must be upset with all this hate when their team always outperforms projections". But they've done this 4 years now, with each year having a different guest/writer of the Orioles chapter, and each time the tone is the same: Lucky, no talent in the front office, their pitching will plummet them to last place, laughing stock etc etc...

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I'm sorry, I thought these guys were pretty much right on with there observations. They maybe proven wrong but they were not unfair. I thought Roch was as honest as I have ever heard him.

Well they have been wrong each of the last four years. If I had been as wrong as they have been, I might question my conclusions a little more. But everybody is entitled to their own opinions. There are posters on this board who have much more carefully considered and researched opinions than this podcast, imho.

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