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Orioles almost traded for Hector Santiago in December...


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I would've wanted him. Guess the return the Angels wanted didn't match the return the Orioles were willing to give up.

What would you have given up for Santiago?

Christian Walker and Brian Matusz. And cash probably. Angels surely want another prospect, minimum.

Thats the package I'd deal for anyone actually.

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I would've wanted him. Guess the return the Angels wanted didn't match the return the Orioles were willing to give up.

What would you have given up for Santiago?

Myself, I've always liked Santiago. Angels are worse than us in the minors. Would of liked to center a deal around Christian Walker but they already have Cron and Pujols. He's a lefty and cost efficient, has shown success, so would have given a Top-10 prospect and a mid-level.

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Santiago is a pretty interesting pitcher. The 0.99 difference between his ERA (3.55) and his FIP (4.54) is the highest for any starting pitcher since 1900.

In fact, since 1970, only 3 starters have had an ERA-FIP difference greater than even 0.70: Santiago, late 80's Blue Jay John Cerruti (0.81), and a very familiar overachiever by the name of Miguel Gonzalez (0.88).

I don't have a whole lot of valuable context to provide here --- as I'm not sure how or why these particular guys stand out and I'm not sure whether there's something about the Orioles that has allowed Miguel to be Miguel and might also allow Hector to keep successfully being Hector --- but I thought it was interesting that they were apparently looking into bringing in a guy who seems to share Miguel's brand of BABIP/strand rate black magic.

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These reports came out around the winter meetings. Duquette actually addressed that they were close to getting a LH starter to bolster their rotation. A few guys they looked at were lower in the rotation on other teams but would be a top starter for us.

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Santiago is a pretty interesting pitcher. The 0.99 difference between his ERA (3.55) and his FIP (4.54) is the highest for any starting pitcher since 1900.

In fact, since 1970, only 3 starters have had an ERA-FIP difference greater than even 0.70: Santiago, late 80's Blue Jay John Cerruti (0.81), and a very familiar overachiever by the name of Miguel Gonzalez (0.88).

I don't have a whole lot of valuable context to provide here --- as I'm not sure how or why these particular guys stand out and I'm not sure whether there's something about the Orioles that has allowed Miguel to be Miguel and might also allow Hector to keep successfully being Hector --- but I thought it was interesting that they were apparently looking into bringing in a guy who seems to share Miguel's brand of BABIP/strand rate black magic.

There is a lot of "ink" dedicated over at fangraphs trying to figure out how Miguel and Santiago do what they do.

P.s. I am glad I caught that my phone wanted to autocorrect Fangraphs into "fan rapes."

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These reports came out around the winter meetings. Duquette actually addressed that they were close to getting a LH starter to bolster their rotation. A few guys they looked at were lower in the rotation on other teams but would be a top starter for us.

Yep, I remember. He said we were most likely going to add a starter that week. Do you know what we were looking to give up or how close it was to happening?

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