What percentage of the game is defense?

[scOtt]

Half?

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[scOtt]

Defense is cheaper than pitching, so of course the Orioles value defense more.

Yeah, because we never spend any money.

[weams]

Considering half the game is scoring runs and the other half is preventing runs it has to be some percentage of the larger preventing runs percentage.

About 7 to 8 outs a game come from strikeouts where the defense doesn't touch the ball and another 10 or more are from routine plays. The average teams makes only about 0.6 errors a game, so the amount of routine plays not made is not hugely significant. The percentage of time that error has a real impact on the game or final score makes it even less significant.

I view defense at about 1/3 of the overall run prevention factor, and around 15 percent of the overall game factor. This is not very scientific Of course, other factors like pitch framing and defensive alignment are a little more difficult to quantify and it helps to have a guy like Jonathan Schoop that can really turn the DP even though it looks routine.

Thoughts? Am I low or high with this 15 percent number?

20 percent? 18%? 15 is probably it though.

[larrytt]

Defense is cheaper than pitching, so of course the Orioles value defense more.

More likely they realize that with short outfield fences and playing in the AL East, pitchers don't want to come here - unless we back them up with great defense to compensate. And the Orioles do have very good defense everywhere except corner outfield. (And we used to be good there as well, alas.)

[weams]

More likely they realize that with short outfield fences and playing in the AL East, pitchers don't want to come here - unless we back them up with great defense to compensate. And the Orioles do have very good defense everywhere except corner outfield. (And we used to be good there as well, alas.)

The Twins announcers were raving about Trumbo out there. Kim looked great in left the last two games I saw him play.

[abbott]

Yeah, because we never spend any money.

Not on pitching. Jimenez and Gallardo are cheap compared to All Star liber pitchers. They are #3s at best.

[scOtt]

Not on pitching. Jimenez and Gallardo are cheap compared to All Star liber pitchers. They are #3s at best.

Not cheap. Good value for a cash-stressed team like we are.

[Can_of_corn]

Not cheap. Good value for a cash-stressed team like we are.

Poor value for a team with a weak farm system.

[eddie83]

I think WAR overstates its value.

[scOtt]

Poor value for a team with a weak farm system.

Compared to $300 million contracts it's what we're left with.

[Can_of_corn]

Compared to $300 million contracts it's what we're left with.

Or you know, not trading away guys for the likes of Norris and Parra.

[Il BuonO]

90% of the game is half defense.

Hah! Well done.

[weams]

Or you know, not trading away guys for the likes of Norris and Parra.

So you figure without Norris that the Orioles go to the ALCS in 2014?

[Can_of_corn]

So you figure without Norris that the Orioles go to the ALCS in 2014?

With Gausman in the rotation from day one?

Sure.

Despite it being a career year for Bud he wasn't appreciably better than any of the other five guys.

[weams]

With Gausman in the rotation from day one?

Sure.

Despite it being a career year for Bud he wasn't appreciably better than any of the other five guys.

I think that is certainly debatable. You could fantasize about what Gausman may have done and how he may have progressed. Bud's body of work was fact.