Is Tillman our #3 starter now?

[Bradysburns]

I like many folks said sometime last year that Gausman was going to ascend to our ace role this year. Bundy has been a surprise, but he's starting to establish himself as a pitcher - not just a thrower. His pitch selection and execution was amazing today. Zero walks! I love me some Tilly, but in my view, he's about to become our #3 starter, and that will impact his contract rather significantly. Agreed/disagree? Is Tilly still our #1? 

[Dark Helmet]

Too early to say imo. I thought after last year, Gausman may have passed Tillman. Bundy looked sharp last night. He looks like he knows what he's doing out there. If Tillman can get back healthy, we have the makings of a solid 1-3.

[BMann]

Tillman has been successful here for a long time. Never a true Ace, supposedly, but it'll take more than one turn through the rotation for Gausman and Bundy to supplant him. Still, I really hope they do!!! How awesome would it be to have TWO starters in our rotation better than the steady Tillman?!?

Hard to say what such a drop in the rotation would mean for Tilly's contract negotiations. If he can come back from this injury and put up the same numbers he usually has, it shouldn't cost him much $$$. No one, in Baltimore or elsewhere, was ever going to pay him True Ace money, anyway.

[25 Nuggets]

Let's see if he can actually pitch first.

[wildcard]

20 minutes ago, BMann said:

Tillman has been successful here for a long time. Never a true Ace, supposedly, but it'll take more than one turn through the rotation for Gausman and Bundy to supplant him. Still, I really hope they do!!! How awesome would it be to have TWO starters in our rotation better than the steady Tillman?!?

Hard to say what such a drop in the rotation would mean for Tilly's contract negotiations. If he can come back from this injury and put up the same numbers he usually has, it shouldn't cost him much $$$. No one, in Baltimore or elsewhere, was ever going to pay him True Ace money, anyway.

If Tillman comes back and pitches as well as he has in the past he will be making 16-17m next year somewhere.  Hopefully with the O's.  But he probably loses years off his contract because of the risk of injury.

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Let's see if he can actually pitch first.

That's kind of how I see it.    Tillman's been a very reliable pitcher for five years, and isn't easily supplanted.   However, we have no idea whether he'll come back in early May as scheduled, and if he does, whether he'll look like the same guy we're used to seeing.   

[jerios55]

The irony of this post after the commercial on MASN about Tillman not getting respect. 

Hopefully, we get to the playoffs and then we can talk about who gets the 1,2,3 status.

[Machado13]

Too soon to tell but imo the Os need Gausman and Bundy to pitch like 1/2 type starters all year to make the postseason.

[Bradysburns]

3 hours ago, BMann said:

Tillman has been successful here for a long time. Never a true Ace, supposedly, but it'll take more than one turn through the rotation for Gausman and Bundy to supplant him. Still, I really hope they do!!! How awesome would it be to have TWO starters in our rotation better than the steady Tillman?!?

Hard to say what such a drop in the rotation would mean for Tilly's contract negotiations. If he can come back from this injury and put up the same numbers he usually has, it shouldn't cost him much $$$. No one, in Baltimore or elsewhere, was ever going to pay him True Ace money, anyway.

Agreed on the lack of ace money for Tillman when contract time comes. But I think he's been viewed as a #1 starter here for years... even though his numbers suggested a strong #2 or #3. If Gas and King Kong take those spots with more typical numbers for #1's and #2's... I think that kinda unmasked Tillman for real - as a solid mid-rotation guy. That means he might not crack the $10 million/year mark, IMO. 

[Bradysburns]

3 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Let's see if he can actually pitch first.

Fair point - who knows what's actually going on right now with him. Hopefully it's just some light fraying that'll heal up quickly. I would sure like to see him back the rotation asap. Even then... if he pitches to his normal Tilly standards... I dunno. This feels like a weird turning-point in his career. He may have peaked. That doesn't mean he can't stay productive for us for several more years, of course. 

[Bradysburns]

19 minutes ago, dan-O said:

I would be content if everyone just pitched like a 3. 

So you've been happy with our rotation the past few years, then.

[MDtransplant757]

I hope that the three can be interchangeable, really

[Camden_yardbird]

I like to say Gerrit Cole (Pirates) has ace stuff with the mentality of a #5.  Tillman has high #3, low #2 with the mentality of an ace.  If healthy he is still the stopper, the leader, and the guy you expect to pitch well in big spots.  The other two are quickly ascending the the stuff side of the spectrum.  Still gotta see the mind set.  Gausman showed us he is capable in NY last year.

[sportsfan8703]

4 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Let's see if he can actually pitch first.

I agree.  I have a bad feeling about this.  I really hope he's able to pitch.

Injury.  PRP injections.  No surgery.  Extension talks(maybe we were trying to get him on the cheap knowing he'd be out a year)  Starts a program and then has a setback.  4/15 now sometime in May.  10 depth SP's acquired.

The Orioles FO could be letting the fans down gently on this one.  With attendance down last year it would be a huge negative PR blow for the team.  

I hope he pitches, and pitches well, in May-October, but I'm scared.