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20 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Didn't say it couldn't happen Frobby.  Just that I didn't think it would.

Just curious, have you watched Wells pitch?    I haven't, and even if I had, I don't think I necessarily could separate out the stuff from the outcome, other than obvious things like velocity.   And I've always had, and always will have, a fondness for pitchers will plus command.  

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Just now, Frobby said:

Just curious, have you watched Wells pitch?    I haven't, and even if I had, I don't think I necessarily could separate out the stuff from the outcome, other than obvious things like velocity.   And I've always had, and always will have, a fondness for pitchers will plus command.  

Nope.  I really should get out to some GCL games but I haven't in too long. 

I'm also not enough of a scout to be able to accurately project him if I did watch him pitch.

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42 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Zach Davies says hi.    To be fair, Tony was higher on Davies than on Wells.     

I think several of the listed guys have higher ceilings than Wells, but I might rank Wells the highest in terms of probability of making it to the majors, even if he'd never be more than a back-end starter.  

Has a greg maddux comparison been explored? Of course you can't expect anyone to turn into maddux but they're the same size with very similar stats at the same levels. 

As CoC mentioned though, so much will depend on if his stuff can translate to higher levels.

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Has a greg maddux comparison been explored? Of course you can't expect anyone to turn into maddux but they're the same size with very similar stats at the same levels. 

As CoC mentioned though, so much will depend on if his stuff can translate to higher levels.

Yeah, I'd hate to use Maddux as a comp for just about anyone.   Nobody on earth has that level of command of several different pitches.    Maybe a Jamie Moyer comp fits.

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2 hours ago, survivedc said:

What does Wells have to do to get some love?

Wells looks a almost exactly like Ted Lilly, a guy like that isn't going to excite people but it certainly doesn't mean he won't make it. He's been a pleasure to follow.

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51 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Just curious, have you watched Wells pitch?    I haven't, and even if I had, I don't think I necessarily could separate out the stuff from the outcome, other than obvious things like velocity.   And I've always had, and always will have, a fondness for pitchers will plus command.  

Posted a video that has about 6-7 pitches from his last outing. Shows a nice big curve.

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40 minutes ago, Cumberbundy said:

Lowth ♥️

I laughed. xD

My favorite pitcher during the Mike Flannagan/Dennis Martinez/Scotty McGregor years was... Scotty - the one with the least "stuff".  What a master craftsman.  Sometimes, the innings would be over in a few pitches - I loved that.  But he was still occasionally able to over-match the best power hitters.  I recall a big series against the Angels (I think) where Scotty threw nothing but fastballs in the heart of the plate against Reggie Jackson.  Reggies swung and missed every time.  I don't know if Scotty got in his head, or Reggie was sure Scotty wouldn't have the chutspa to keep throwing him fastballs, or if it was Scotty's across the body throwing motion, but that was one of those things about baseball that makes it great.  I'm hoping Lowther reminds me of Scotty some day in Baltimore.       

 

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I'd hate to use Maddux as a comp for just about anyone.   Nobody on earth has that level of command of several different pitches.    Maybe a Jamie Moyer comp fits.

Or maybe Josh Towers?

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1 hour ago, Ruzious said:

I laughed. xD

My favorite pitcher during the Mike Flannagan/Dennis Martinez/Scotty McGregor years was... Scotty - the one with the least "stuff".  What a master craftsman.  Sometimes, the innings would be over in a few pitches - I loved that.  But he was still occasionally able to over-match the best power hitters.  I recall a big series against the Angels (I think) where Scotty threw nothing but fastballs in the heart of the plate against Reggie Jackson.  Reggies swung and missed every time.  I don't know if Scotty got in his head, or Reggie was sure Scotty wouldn't have the chutspa to keep throwing him fastballs, or if it was Scotty's across the body throwing motion, but that was one of those things about baseball that makes it great.  I'm hoping Lowther reminds me of Scotty some day in Baltimore.       

 

There is definitely something special about watching a guy succeed without 97 to rely on. Lowth throws up in the zone with 88 - he's definitely what people would distinguish as a "pitcher" while my second favorite arm, Liranzo, is a "thrower. My two favorite pitchers in the minors are nothing alike. I can't wait to see how he will do when he moves up. I don't recall where Lowther was projected to go in the draft, do you? I suppose a quick google search would provide that information, I fell hard for the Lowth on draft day, I've watched a million people pitch and he just has something unique. The 88mph heat with 103mph K numbers in college. I love that a few of his YouTube clips are from the first base side of the mound so we get a better feel for how much movement he can get on his fb. I wish mlb offered multiple camera angles to watch a game from, I'd pay for that. 

 

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45 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

Or maybe Josh Towers?

Josh towers pointing to the sky, with enthusiasm, after a guy hit the ball 120mph & 470 feet,used to make me laugh. "We all know where it is Josh, we just don't know if its ever coming back" 

 

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Mountcastle 

Hays

DL Hall

Harvey

Mullins

Sisco

Adam Hall

Akin

Scott

Santander

Liranzo

Sedlock

Lowther

Bishop

Baumann

Hanifee

Gassaway

Wheels 

Wells

Long (no love for long from mlb)

Chrichton

Rif

Reyes

Breazeale

Peralta 

Cleavinger

Curran

Yaz

Fenter

 

Mostly future all stars, some just very good mlb players. 

 

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